Apple iOS 5 now outperforms IE9 HTML5 on Windows Phone Mango

By Tom Warren, on 20th Jun 11 11:39 pm with 152 Comments

Microsoft kicked off a mobile HTML5 performance war back in April.

The software giant demonstrated a Windows Phone Mango device against an Android and iPhone 4. Windows Phone came out on top but it hasn’t taken Apple long to respond. The latest iOS 5 beta reaches 31 FPS on the site, greater than existing Windows Phone devices with Mango loaded. Joe Belfiore, Director of the Windows Phone program, demonstrated Internet Explorer 9 mobile against the iPhone 4 as recently as May for the company’s Mango VIP event. The device reached around 25 FPS. Microsoft may need to be careful using the demo again as the latest beta builds of iOS 5 show a dramatic performance increase for HTML5 content, above and beyond Microsoft’s own demos.

Microsoft recently launched a mobile IE9 testing site that allows web developers to test the HTML5 abilities of Windows Phone Mango:

  • Audio Player
  • Geolocation
  • Border Radius
  • DOM Local Storage
  • Scalable Vector Graphics
  • CSS3 Media Queries
  • DOMContentLoaded
  • FishIE Tank
  • Speed Reading (from MIX11)
  • Animated Text
  • HamsterDance Revolution
  • Business Charts
  • IE Logo
  • Video Panorama
  • Browser Control Theming

Apple has yet to talk about how it plans to use HTML5 hardware acceleration for Safari. The company has clearly made some dramatic improvements since iOS 4.3 and these are clear in Microsoft’s test pages. Internet Explorer 9 mobile will ship as part of Windows Phone Mango, available in the fall this year.

iOS 5 speed reading test

Image Credit: Marshalus

  • Anonymous

    What hardware was this run on, iPhone 4 or iPad 2?

    • http://www.winrumors.com Tom W

      iPhone 4

    • A Fan

      Tom, thenextweb has Mango doing 41 fps. Time to update your post or better yet, write a new one so all of us know where it stands?  THanks.

    • A Fan

      Tom, thenextweb has Mango doing 41 fps. Time to update your post or better yet, write a new one so all of us know where it stands?  THanks.

    • A Fan

      Actually, check that. Up to *45* fps for the latest Mango. That’s almost 50% better than iOS5 beta, no?

    • Entegy

      What device were they using? I’m using the Mango beta on my Samsung Focus and I’m getting 24FPS on average.

  • Anonymous

    What hardware was this run on, iPhone 4 or iPad 2?

  • http://www.Nave360.com Sebastian Gorgon

    didn’t know this site did ios, this article is heavily focused on ios

  • http://www.Nave360.com Sebastian Gorgon

    didn’t know this site did ios, this article is heavily focused on ios

  • Anonymous

    Why not make a video of this? y screenshot? Dont believe it.

    • http://www.winrumors.com Tom W

      Believe what you will.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mitch-Foster/100000527225418 Mitch Foster

      Typical!

      And everyone else didn’t believe the Mango improvements either because Microsoft developed their own testing software.  Don’t you guys remember? Everyone was saying things like: Of course Mango outperformed because they designed it to work perfectly on their system

      Well now, I guess you can say that the playing field has thus been leveled.  Now that Apple is using the exact same testing methods at MS, there should be no confusion on why which ever browser works better. 

      Just because it’s an image doesn’t mean it’s not true, so why don’t we all go the mature route and assume that no one cheated, until the scandal hits the news stands!  Because if we all just sit here and bash Apple for cheating (when it is very possible they did not!) then we look like a bunch of idiots to the rest of the online community and will really only progress the stereotype that is undoubtfully accompanied by negative assertations due to close-minded individuals such as yourself! 

      Be it truth or not, accept that what you are reading is true because it can only mean good things to come.  Do you think Microsoft would be working as hard as they are to fight the competition if there wasn’t any? Possibly, but it’s nice to think that they wouldn’t.  So in that respect, I thank Apple, Google, and the many other companies that kicked MS in the ass so that they could get a grip and try to make something amazing instead of something that is just better.

    • MrBACON42

      why would tom lie to make ios5 better than wpmango? this isn’t some biased website like engadget.  Good job on the research Tom, i hope microsoft works hard to win the speed war. 

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mitch-Foster/100000527225418 Mitch Foster

      I was replying to zuurken, not Tom! :P

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mitch-Foster/100000527225418 Mitch Foster

      I was replying to zuurken, not Tom! :P

    • JustPashingThru
    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=42602728 Jon DeMuria

      anywhere between 25 – 41 fps, while the IOS5 ran consistantly at 30-32… would you rather take wild fluctuations between 25-41 or a consistant 30-32? just saying…I’m def not a fanboy of IOS

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=42602728 Jon DeMuria

      anywhere between 25 – 41 fps, while the IOS5 ran consistantly at 30-32… would you rather take wild fluctuations between 25-41 or a consistant 30-32? just saying…I’m def not a fanboy of IOS

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=42602728 Jon DeMuria

      not biased? the name of the website is winrumors! If anything he would be biased towards mango! Give poor Tom a break.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=42602728 Jon DeMuria

      not biased? the name of the website is winrumors! If anything he would be biased towards mango! Give poor Tom a break.

    • Guest

      You can handle the TRUTH!!!!!! 

    • panosha

    • Viruela22
  • http://twitter.com/cameron_mck sca2pula

    If hardware acceleration really makes a difference (which I imagine it would) the new, more powerful iPhone 4 processor should of course give a higher result than the current WP devices. Once the new hardware is released/tested I believe these would give higher results than the current older hardware…

    • John E.

      The iPhone 4 was released 5 months before any Windows Phone 7 hardware…

    • Anonymous

      …and?  The A4 is just a Samsung hummingbird which is a generation newer than the snapdragon in WP7.

    • http://twitter.com/cameron_mck sca2pula

      The snapdragon processor used in WP7 devices was already nearly two years old… 

    • http://twitter.com/cameron_mck sca2pula

      The snapdragon processor used in WP7 devices was already nearly two years old… 

    • Anonymous

      the iPhone and the 1st gen Windows Phones use ARM Cortex-A8 processors. The iPhone A4 chip is a later generation but is clocked at 800Mhz compared to 1 GHz Scorpion Snapdragon WP are using

    • Anonymous

      Hardware acceleration is about using the GPU which is not the same between devices, that makes a big difference.
      I know iPhone4 GPU is powerfull but what about GPU used in Windows Phone?

    • Anonymous

      Windows phone 7 handsets use the QSD8x50 Snapdragons with the adreno 200 GPU, the GPU is little more than half as strong as the SGX535 in the iPhone 4. 

  • http://twitter.com/cameron_mck sca2pula

    If hardware acceleration really makes a difference (which I imagine it would) the new, more powerful iPhone 4 processor should of course give a higher result than the current WP devices. Once the new hardware is released/tested I believe these would give higher results than the current older hardware…

  • IE & Opera FanBoy

    Very Good, Hope this is true to raise the bar for Microsoft. Microsoft will definitely fight back!!! iPhone 4 has dual core, currently all WP phones are single core. That will make huge difference, its all in Nokia, Samsung , LG & HTC’s hand to build a phone with better hardware.

    • http://www.facebook.com/simon.andrews Simon Andrews

      iPhone 4 is single core.

    • http://ctthosting.com Christian Turkoanje

      iPad 2 which has a dual core runs at 60 fps

  • Anonymous

    would a dual-core iphone 5/4S make it the browsing faster?

  • http://www.rwalrond.com RWalrond

    This is why it’s good to have these guys duke it out. I’m sure Apple had no intention of turning this feature on. If HTML 5 on the iPhone gives you App like performance, you will see some companys build Html 5 apps instead of native apps. Therefore keeping their 30% Apple Tax. You IOS users can now Thank Microsoft.

    • Anonymous

      yh because ms invented hardware acceleration

    • http://www.rwalrond.com RWalrond

      Wow, did I say that? Perhaps you should read my comment again. If Microsoft didn’t show the iPhone losing badly in their HTML5 demo, Apple probably would not have turned on Hardware Acceleration anytime soon for HTML5.

    • Will

      Right. Because Apple always waits for Microsoft to do things before they do it. 

      Besides the fact that Apple’s website is completely written in HTML5 code and they definitely want that to load fast on their portable devices didn’t have anything to do with it. Nor did the fact that they’ve been solidly pushing HTML5 longer than other companies because it is the alternative they see to Flash, which was far more dominant in the market before Adobe and Apple had their falling out. 

      But right. They totally would have waited and not done anything about it. 

    • http://www.rwalrond.com RWalrond

      So using your logic…

      Right. Because Apple never watches what other comapnies are doing.

      It’s not like IOS needed an Android like notificaton system or a Windows Phone like Camera App… nahhh Apple had these features already planned out, it’s not like the Camera shutter/Volume button was tacked on or something.. Heck I think in Apple speak, Volume up means take a picture…

      As consumers we all win when these companies push each other. My point was simple, without the googles and Microsofts of the world, pushing forward Apple wouldn’t have to do anything int he mobile space, but because these companies are trying to innovate it keeps Apple on their toes and we all win.

      So really, you guys need to relax, I’m not bashing your company.

    • Will

      Right. Because Apple always waits for Microsoft to do things before they do it. 

      Besides the fact that Apple’s website is completely written in HTML5 code and they definitely want that to load fast on their portable devices didn’t have anything to do with it. Nor did the fact that they’ve been solidly pushing HTML5 longer than other companies because it is the alternative they see to Flash, which was far more dominant in the market before Adobe and Apple had their falling out. 

      But right. They totally would have waited and not done anything about it. 

    • MSblog

      It not about who is first to the party, it who dance the best when they get there!!!!!!!!!!!

    • DroidDev

      What about the 300% WP7 GAME TAX!!!!!!!!!!  Marketplace charges 3x the price for the same games as Apple.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Alex-Gorevski/24403295 Alex Gorevski

    There are multiple reasons why beta software shouldn’t be used for benchmarks. Not to mention the hardware specs on iPhone and the multitude of possible Mango devices that can be tested on are not equivalent.

    This article really should be pulled, it really has no basis.

    • http://www.winrumors.com Tom W

      Umm for starters most existing WP7 devices use the same chipsets. Secondly the device used in Joe Belfiore’s demos ran to around 27 FPS. He tested Mango (beta) software against iOS 4.3 (non-beta). I tested iOS 5 (beta) software against his Mango (beta) software. Surely the latter test is fairer.

    • A Fan

      Can you run some other tests like the fish tank one and tell us how it runs? Anyway I don’t think it’s that hard to optimize for one or two particular tests. We need a suite of tests to judge if safari really offloads its html5 stuff to gpu as well as ie9 does.

    • http://ctthosting.com Christian Turkoanje

      Fishtank runs at 10 fps on iPhone 4 and 30 fps on iPad 2. Both running iOS 5

    • mlewis

      IE9 runs 25 FPS with Mango and 10 fish.

    • MSblog

      If you do not like the message, KILL THE MESSENGER.  Lighten up guys, Tom is on our side.

    • Anonymous

      What “side” is that, exactly? What is with all the ‘us vs. them’ bullshit here? 
      I use an iPhone, but am looking forward to the next gen Windows 7 phones, and enjoy reading Tom Warren’s take on the industry. It is only in comments that people are “taking sides” about anything.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Alex-Gorevski/24403295 Alex Gorevski

      Not taking a side – its just pointing out it’s an apples-to-oranges comparison.  Different devices, different hardware characteristics, different OS’. Short of running both tests on the same device with each set of beta software, the comparison is kind-of moot (or at the very least, not as accurate as it could be).

      Heck, if iOS is truly faster, I sincerely hope it makes the team responsible for delivering IE on Mango in MS work harder and improve the speeds.  What I don’t like seeing is a misrepesentation of data which people will interpret as actionable, when it may very well be far from it.You still didn’t post the hardware specs – do you have them handy?  Could you elaborate further on the exact devices that were used? That’s all I ask.

    • http://www.winrumors.com Tom W

      You’re missing the point here. Email Joe for the specific specs, Microsoft demonstrated a non-production device with Mango beta software against an iPhone 4 running production hardware and software and touted it as much better HTML5 performance. The iPhone 4 has now bounced back in iOS 5 and now outperforms THAT demo. It doesn’t matter what specs that demo device is, the simple fact remains that iOS 5 now outperforms that demo. The comparison isn’t “moot”, it’s based on the same questionable demo that Microsoft pushed out. Despite this, I have a Trophy with Mango on it and it performs at 25FPS against the iPhone 4 at 31 FPS in the same test.

    • A Fan

      Why do you call it a “questionable” demo?  Because it was beta vs shipping software? What were they supposed to do, ask Apple to give them a beta version of iOS5 to test? Anyway, I found the demo much less questionable than the way you put a blanket statement saying ios 5 outperforms ie9 in html5 based on a single test.

    • http://www.winrumors.com Tom W

      It’s questionable because it’s not clear what device the demo is running on. It appears to be a non-production HTC demo unit.

    • A Fan

      Why do you call it a “questionable” demo?  Because it was beta vs shipping software? What were they supposed to do, ask Apple to give them a beta version of iOS5 to test? Anyway, I found the demo much less questionable than the way you put a blanket statement saying ios 5 outperforms ie9 in html5 based on a single test.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Alex-Gorevski/24403295 Alex Gorevski

      What I’m getting at this is like saying the following:* I ran the same HTML5 test on Chrome, on a quad-core processor with a $600 gfx card* I ran the same HTML5 test on IE, on a netbook with a crappy gfx card

      (and it was slower so clearly Chrome is better everyone join in on the lulz)These tests are only as good as the hardware they run on – and there is no basis as to whose HTML5 rendering engine is actually BETTER in the above tests.  Obviously my example is much more drastic than would be the case on these two devices.
      My whole point is moot if the iPhone’s chipset is actually slower or exactly comparable than the WP7 device used in testing, but I’m not so sure it was.  Yes, if you have an existing WP7 device, perhaps with beta Mango software, you won’t get good rendering in an HTML5 performance-test-application.  Big whoop.

      What about all of the new devices coming out with different hardware specifications, both the new iPhone5 and Nokia’s lineup?  Sounds to me like “the phone with better hardware will be faster” – period.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Alex-Gorevski/24403295 Alex Gorevski

      No offense Tom, but isn’t it YOUR job to do the research and post the articles?

      It’s ironic though – the hidden point Joe was making in his demo is that a slower phone (hardware-wise) achieved significantly better scores than a faster phone with another OS.

      When you turn around and say the exact opposite is now the case, where the faster hardware is finally performing like it should be, that’s not a revelation at all.

    • MSblog

      No your winning, the fact is sometime the other guy’s product is better.  Accepting it rather then fight it is what intelligent business do (unlike immature fanboys).  Thanks goodness they do otherwise we still be stuck with WM6,thought in that case it took a bit too long.      

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Alex-Gorevski/24403295 Alex Gorevski

      You’re right, I must be immature for trying to point out that the measurements were done with inaccuracy, and not all of the variables were accounted for.  It doesn’t strike me as a well-thought-out post whatsoever.

      I suspect you’re not responsible for doing any type of performance testing at your job, or if you do, don’t do it right, because these are the types of things that you will be asked when you try to defend your results.

    • Guest

      More whining, sometime the other horse wins.  Again it not something to cry about it is just a reason to work harder, that is what competitors do, whiners just whine.  

    • http://Androidized.com Lucian Armasu

      Especially since IE browsers stay in beta for a year. Just compare them when they’re all stable. Who cares if this week’s beta browser is faster than last week’s iOS’ beta browser. What matters is the performance these browsers will have in shipping devices (where the hardware of the phone also matters)

    • http://Androidized.com Lucian Armasu

      Especially since IE browsers stay in beta for a year. Just compare them when they’re all stable. Who cares if this week’s beta browser is faster than last week’s iOS’ beta browser. What matters is the performance these browsers will have in shipping devices (where the hardware of the phone also matters)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Alex-Gorevski/24403295 Alex Gorevski

    There are multiple reasons why beta software shouldn’t be used for benchmarks. Not to mention the hardware specs on iPhone and the multitude of possible Mango devices that can be tested on are not equivalent.

    This article really should be pulled, it really has no basis.

  • http://twitter.com/s_a_r_k_i_s sarkis chamelian

    Who cares about iOS 5 , big deal its faster, Microsoft just tweak ie9 and get it ready for release date, I bet anyone a free meal ie9 will be faster….lol

    • Anonymous

      exactly… just like when they made IE9 faster and faster with each preview. they can make something that was shown some months ago, faster because there is plenty of time. the update its until september-october i guess, so there is still alot of months to tweak and make everything faster.

    • Anonymous

      They didn’t say what hardware this was run on.  It might have been on the new iPhone 5 hardware with the dual core processor.  Also, why does the picture above say iOS 4.3????

    • http://www.winrumors.com Tom W

      That’s how Microsoft’s site picks up the iOS version. It’s running on iOS 5 though believe me, iOS 4.3 was much worse in terms of HTML5 performance.

    • http://www.facebook.com/alijahgreen Ahmad J Nicholas

      wondering why it still says ios 4.3, plus you need a newer build of mango

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HRNMG5CQOSXWSHPBC2J2VCLTS4 JLB

      Reading comments like this is highly entertaining.
      These guys forget that their team is playing ball in the stadium somebody else built.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HRNMG5CQOSXWSHPBC2J2VCLTS4 JLB

      Reading comments like this is highly entertaining.
      These guys forget that their team is playing ball in the stadium somebody else built.

  • http://twitter.com/s_a_r_k_i_s sarkis chamelian

    Who cares about iOS 5 , big deal its faster, Microsoft just tweak ie9 and get it ready for release date, I bet anyone a free meal ie9 will be faster….lol

  • Anonymous

    This is a fair race. Punch back, MS ;)

  • http://www.facebook.com/simon.andrews Simon Andrews

    Not a problem. They’ll just keep running the test on iOS 4. Problem: solved.

    • Anonymous

      So true, sad thing is iOS5 will be out before Mango

    • Adam Robinson

      Actually it’s said devices might be out for October and software might be complete in September

    • http://ctthosting.com Christian Turkoanje

      And iOS 5 is coming out in September.

    • mlewis

      Why don’t you get off your knees for Steve?

    • Guest

      Give MS a break, WP7 is less then a year old, we should be comparing it to iOS1 and we kick its butt. Who cares if we are few year behind the curve, it about us die hard MS fans feeling good about ourselves rather then having the best product.  

    • zzz

      Your right but we are catching up quickly, another year or two we will be up to i0S5!

  • Anonymous

    Microsft added almost 4 FPS to the speed in about a month spaning from MIX 11 to the Windows Phone VIP Event. I say they will definately be able to match Apple in this release and surpass them in the next.

  • Anonymous

    This is great news for web developers.  So what if the iPhone is 13% faster than Windows Phones, it’s not that big of a difference.  All this means is that developers can make better websites that make use of hardware acceleration.  This only makes the mobile web experiences better.

  • dino993

    what was shown by Belfiore was a older pre release version of mobile ie9 this safari version was shown few months later, the real ie9 for mobile will be fast than what was shown at mix11.

    • Jake Walker

      its called iOS5 beta, its also a pre-release you dumb ass! They showed it off cos it was one of the most finished features as well. I agree it will increase but not by much.

  • http://twitter.com/skatingn330 Matt Miley

    Thanks for another reason not to switch from iPhone to WP7 MS.

    • http://twitter.com/furdworetzky Fur Dworetzky

      Is a 6 FPS difference in one tech demo in unreleased software really a reason to not switch?

    • Anonymous

      lol, probably not. But the iPhone 4 running iOS4 ran 2 FPS, compared to the WinPhone 7 device running 25 FPS. A 23 FPS difference may mean something to people interested in switching, esp. since 2 FPS is basically unusable.

    • Anonymous

      lol, probably not. But the iPhone 4 running iOS4 ran 2 FPS, compared to the WinPhone 7 device running 25 FPS. A 23 FPS difference may mean something to people interested in switching, esp. since 2 FPS is basically unusable.

    • Anonymous

      It is when you are trolling with dumb comments I guess;)

    • Anonymous

      omg plz do not make me LULZZZZZZ… lets go to starbucks instead

  • http://twitter.com/jimmyfal Jimmy Fallon

    Typical MS bungle… saw it coming. They should really avoid this stuff. It can only come back to bite you.

    • MrBACON42

      avoid what? avoid improving products because at some point someone will eventually beat you in a speed test? ya that makes a lot of sense.

      I’m not going to watch your show anymore because of this idiotic comment

    • MSblog

      No avoid silly comparison that does not really matter to the mainstream customer when the it can do as much harm as good in the long run.  Silly things like this like performance numbers distract from focusing on the overall user experience which is what will determine the success of a platform.   

  • Poster99000

     6-frames is hardly a trouncing. Mobile Safari is far more mature than mobile ie9 and the fact that performance is comparable is not  actually that discouraging. What is perhaps a letdown to MS is Safari has improved so dramatically and I only hope that this will, again, make the point to MS that their updating process is toooooo slow. They are behind and should be working faster than the competition rather than at the same pace. As visionary as wp7 is they still seem to be hewing to a desktop OS style massive-updates schedule which simply is not going to be the best way to bust wp7 out of the pack. Imagine though if Mango were already out and Apple was playing catch up – that woould make a far better case for the platform.

  • http://twitter.com/veritas086 Jeff Dunn

    Either way you won’t actually see that speed on a mobile network. It’s like two retarded people fighting.

    • Anonymous

      Mobile Networks play no part in that demo. The canvas redraws do not start until the assets are downloaded.

  • Anonymous

    Apple fans don’t realize that this helps Microsoft. Since Safari isn’t dog slow anymore, more developers will write HTML 5 web apps like the Financial Times did. This will help Windows 8.

    • John E.

      Apple wants to rid the world of Flash.  More HTML 5 apps, animations, etc. help Apple’s cause.  I don’t think they care if it helps Microsoft or Windows 8.

  • Adam Robinson

    They aren’t done with IE9. They said they’re doing speed optimization. IE9 Mobile is feature complete but for the next few months they’re going to try to get the most speed they can out of these Snapdragons.

  • Anonymous

    I am hoping they all run HTML5/JS fast! Would love to be able to program for IOS and WP7 using one framework.

  • Anonymous

    For anyone worried about Mango, the mobile test sites weren’t even made or done yet during that conference. Can’t compare these tests until they are done together using the same code :D

    Just be happy HTML5/JS will be a mobile app player across the board!

  • Anonymous

    For anyone worried about Mango, the mobile test sites weren’t even made or done yet during that conference. Can’t compare these tests until they are done together using the same code :D

    Just be happy HTML5/JS will be a mobile app player across the board!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DNF42QBQK5SOHAJQZHE4ASLPSI Ali

    Tom, great site btw. I think in this instance the story is incomplete. It does not reveal who tested it and how many times were the test run for accuracy. Did joe from MS test IE9 on old hardware or some new hardware like that of Iphone4. 
    Also was MS reached for comment for the story?

    • John E.

      iPhone 4 release date: June 24, 2010
      Initial Windows 7 Phone(s) release date: October 21, 2010

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Alex-Gorevski/24403295 Alex Gorevski

      iPhone: one device with a specific set of specifications
      WP7: many devices with varying specifications

    • MSblog

      Good point and your right in that it give Apple a overall advantage with the ability to focus on user experience.  I have never thought of it in that manner.  May have to rethink my upcoming WP7 purchase.  

  • http://techvirtuoso.com Michael Stanclift

    Sweet, I made the front page :)

  • Anonymous

    Interesting results, Tom, thanks!
    Any bets on what will ship first-the dual-core iPhone 5 with iOS5 or the first Nokia with Mango?

  • http://fakesteveballmer.blogspot.com/ Stephanos Anton Ballmerfeld

    We will jump ahead again!

    • Guest

      Get a life.

    • Guest

      Get a life.

  • http://fakesteveballmer.blogspot.com/ Stephanos Anton Ballmerfeld

    We will jump ahead again!

  • panosha

  • Anonymous

    Was Joe Belfiore’s IE9 tech demo run on a current gen QSD8x50 device or a prerelease upcoming device with a MSM8x55?  That’ll make a big difference since the MSM8x55 chips’ GPUs are over twice as fast as the old QSD8x50 chips.  Microsoft needs to optimize their software much more than apple though, the A5 with it’s SGX543MP2 is much more powerful than the snapdragons.

    • Avatar Roku

      Mango was demoed on the 1st gen snapdragon, not 2nd gen which the new windows phones will be using.

      Microsoft wants every browser to do hardware acceleration because it enables HTML5 web apps. MS promoting HTML5 helps them on two fronts by lessening reliance upon Adobe’s Flash and lessening reliance upon siloed apps that can’t be searched or found on the Internet, (iOS apps). HTML5 is the backbone of Windows 8 app development, so Apple is playing into MS hand by helping to promote it.

  • Anonymous

    This is why Joe Belfiore needs to stop comparing to Windows Phone to iPhone: Steve Jobs blows steam and starts copying everything.

  • Viruela22

    I have always said: since some time ago I
    realized that this is a blog or site on microsoft written by an apple
    fanboy

    • Renzo

      I’m a Microsoft and Apple superfan as well, and why shouldn’t I be? The best software and hardware (respectively) come from these companies IMO.

  • GP007

    The demos are nice and all, and it’s good that apple decided to add some acceleration as well, but on the flip side you can tweak your browser engine to be faster at these demos or “benchmarks” and win some sorta race while in general browsing the resaults will very etc.

    I look at desktop browser benchmarks like sunspider, at this point we’re talking about a difference so small you can’t even see it anymore yet the companies bang that drum (or did, maybe not anymore?).

    I bet next time MS shows off Mango it’ll hit 35FPS on that same test though.  Just wait.

    • Guest

      You bring up a good point, stuff like this only matters to the hard core geeks and fan boys, the average 
      joe and jane just cares about the overall experience.   

  • http://profiles.google.com/carlosrfonseca Carlos Ribeiro da Fonseca

    Well, obviously Microsoft has tweaked the tests to suit IE9!

    Oh wait…

  • Anonymous

    but afterall…

    we are talkin about 5-6 FPS. in a normal html5 usage (not one what designed for high performance benchmarks) the real difference is just millisecs… its almost like the big javascript utilization battle in the desktop.. a half joke.

  • StevieBallz

    It is a pity Microsoft was not able to do the same as on the Desktop and release Hardware Accelerated Browsing before the rest but after all it is nice to see that the others (Apple in this case but I guess Google won’t be sitting idle on this either) picked up the ball and we will see similar performance accross all platforms if they have comparable Hardware.

    As for the comparison – the iPhones GPU is far more powerful than the 1 Gen Snapdragons Adreno 200 so it will be interesting to see this play out on the actual hardware in fall, when we’re likely to see an A5 sporting iPhone 4S and perhaps also Dual Core Wielding WP7 phones.

    All in all we users win :)

  • Bensonfantastic

    Just ran it on an iphone 4 running iOS 5 beta. It got 19 fps….

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=42602728 Jon DeMuria

      reboot it and then run it again right after. All speedtests due this regardless of the phone.

  • Anonymous

    Comparable FPS on the old Adreno 200 GPU used in current WP7 Hardware is pretty damn good.  iPhone 4 has a much faster GPU by comparison and WP7 FPS will only go up with new hardware.

    Hooray for competition!

  • Chance Masterson

    None of this matters because it all centers around HTML5, which is itself nothing more than the industry’s latest false messiah.  With Microsoft continuing to drive away the best-of-the-best developers this continual nonsense, soon nothing they do will be of any significance because they’ll no longer have a platform worthy of developer investment.  Whether investing in something intended for use in-browser, out-of-browser, on the desktop, with WP7+ and/or on the XBox, that work will be done using Silverlight or nothing at all.  So, if listening in Redmond any longer, time to stop the nonsense…

  • FrankEEE

    clearly PC folk still hunt down the FPS. Oh dearest! Safari works for me

  • FrankEEE

    clearly PC folk still hunt down the FPS. Oh dearest! Safari works for me

  • FrankEEE

    clearly PC folk still hunt down the FPS. Oh dearest! Safari works for me

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  • Viruela22

    Tom was conducted test with mango and explorer
    exceeded IOS, scored 45
    http://thenextweb.com/microsoft/2011/06/21/ios-5-faster-with-html5-than-ie9-in-wp7-not-even-close/

    • http://www.winrumors.com Tom W

      I saw this, as you can see in the video above – the Trophy doesn’t perform as well. Nor does the ASUS E600:

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  • Anonymous

    Sorry to burst your bubble, Tom, Newer build of Mango running on the Samsung Focus is able to output up to 45 FPS

  • Anonymous

    Sorry to burst your bubble, Tom, Newer build of Mango running on the Samsung Focus is able to output up to 45 FPS

  • http://twitter.com/Xplorer_7 Lukas Greb

    Everyone stop bitching and talking shit, please.
    http://wmpoweruser.com/ios5-faster-than-mango-at-html5-rendering-wrong/
    Windows Phone 7 on Samsung Focus is a lot faster than iOS on iPhone 4, even with older Hardware.

  • Anonymous

    Newer build on Mango can achieve 41 FPS: http://thenextweb.com/microsoft/2011/06/21/ios-5-faster-with-html5-than-ie9-in-wp7-not-even-close/

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000653771484 Eric Jones

    Tom, WMPower user just shut you up.  Your reporting is wrong!  The new Mango scores 41 FPS besting the new IOS5.  Read your competition’s coverage.

    http://wmpoweruser.com/ios5-faster-than-mango-at-html5-rendering-wrong/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+WmPowerUser+%28WM+Power+User%29&utm_content=Google+International

  • http://twitter.com/abhi1manyu Abhimanyu Jamwal

    TNW tests reveal ie9 on wp7 is atleast 10 fps faster than ios5 safari in the latest mango beta they have ..ie9 is 41fps and can go upto 45 while ios is 32ps max

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    • http://www.winrumors.com Tom W

       I saw this, as you can see in the video above – the Trophy doesn’t perform as well. Nor does the ASUS E600.

  • JustPashingThru

    According to this article: ”
    Tom Warren of WinRumors reports that with Safari in iOS 5, Apple’s phone now clocks in at 31 frames per second in the test, besting the score that IE Mobile 9 had previously posted. We decided to run the test a few more times on our handset running WP7.5 (Mango) and see if IE Mobile 9 is still putting up that 25 frames per second score.
    The answer is no. After running the test roughly 30 times, I’ve seen IE Mobile 9 run no slower than 25, and as high as 45 frames per second. I took a few photos of a test run in which my Mangoed handset managed 41 frames, for reference:” — The author even posted some stills(Samsung Focus on 41fps)

    http://thenextweb.com/microsoft/2011/06/21/ios-5-faster-with-html5-than-ie9-in-wp7-not-even-close/

  • http://profiles.google.com/irrdial Alistair H.

    Why does it say “Mobile Safari blablabla ( iOS 4.3 ) if it’s supposed to be iOS 5 ? Something’s fishy here…

  • Picmar

    I like those competitions. Finally a competitor to make Microsoft think about quality and speed.

  • panosha

    iOS beta 2 iPhone 4

  • panosha

    iOS 5 beta 2 iPad 2

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