Dell CEO dismisses “post-PC” era talk, looks to Windows 8 future

By Tom Warren, on 19th Sep 11 7:18 pm with 124 Comments

Michael Dell, founder and CEO of the Dell computer firm has dismissed claims that the technology industry is entering a post-PC era.

Dell believes the PC industry is strong and PC sales will grow thanks to new opportunities and emerging markets like China. In an interview with the Financial Times, Dell claimed that the post-pc era is nonsense. “There are a billion and a half PCs in the world and while Gartner change their estimates here and there, they also estimate there will be two billion PCs in the world by 2014. So when I look at that, I think the idea that the PC is no longer here is complete nonsense,” he said in the interview.

Dell believes that tablets and smartphones aren’t replacing the PC. “We are very distinct from some of our competitors,” says Dell. “We believe the devices and the hardware still matter as part of the complete, end-to-end solution.” Dell also reveals that his company is working “very much in line” with Microsoft’s Windows 8 plans. “The line that separates a tablet and a laptop today will get very blurry and ultimately disappear as you see many new products,” he claims. In a separate interview in August, Dell revealed that he was encouraged by the companies early work on Windows 8 tablets. He also revealed that he feels the tablet market is a two horse race between Android and Windows 8.

Dell has been a long time advocate of Microsoft’s operating systems and has released a number of touch enabled devices. Dell’s Inspiron Duo is a hybrid device that allows users to switch between netbook and tablet modes. The unique netbook has a spinning screen that allows it to be used as a tablet. The company also teased a 10-inch Windows 7 tablet earlier this year. Dell’s tablet plans leaked in February, indicating that the company was planning a Windows 8 based tablet codenamed “Peju” for release in early 2012. Microsoft revealed its full tablet Metro style user interface for Windows 8 at the company’s BUILD conference last week. Microsoft unveiled its vision for the future and the new Metro style apps that will run across x86, x64 and ARM Windows 8 operating systems.

The “post-PC” era message kicked off after Apple CEO Steve Jobs introduced the company’s iPad 2 device earlier this year. “These are post-PC devices that need to be easier to use than a PC, more intuitive. The hardware and software need to intertwine more than they do on a PC,” said Jobs after claiming Apple had sold 15 million iPad devices in nine months, ”more than every tablet PC ever sold.” Microsoft also rejects the idea of a “post-PC” era of technology. The software giant’s chief of communications, Frank Shaw, revealed the company’s feelings last month. “One should take any reports of the death of the PC with a rather large grain of salt,” said Shaw after claiming that “non-PC” objects aren’t as good at PCs for creating and collaborating.

Anonymous

I would like to hear from this guy what is the Dell future plans concerning Windows Phone, if any.

Last thing we heard was from Microsoft: “Stay tuned”…
- Anonymous
  
  I’d love to see another Windows Phone from Dell.
- Guest
  
  In mobile and tablets Dell has mostly been in bed with Android. I’m not sure that’s going to change radically, although these comments suggest that he may at least be looking to embrace Windows a bit more on the tablet side once W8 arrives. Frankly, Dell and Intel and others have been so busy hedging their bets and fighting amongst each other that they’ve lost track of the fact that the primary threat to all of them long term and even shorter term is Apple.
Anonymous

I like it. More people should come out and squash this PC-is-dead talk pushed by Apple and Google fanboys. That’s just stupid.
- Anonymous
  
  People also said mainframes would never be replaced by personal computers… Look what happened…
- Guest
  
  IBM reported the best mainframe sales in 2010 that they’d had in the past six?
- Anonymous
  
  How have mainframe sales been compared to 1980?
- Gurest
  
  Don’t know gramps, weren’t you finishing off your career in the industry around then? You tell us.
- Anonymous
  
  That’s because pc became just as powerful as mainframe that took up a whole room. When tablets become as powerful as pc, then we’ll talk.
- Anonymous
  
  Oh, come on… Today’s tablet is just as powerful as PCs from as little as 5-7 years ago… there’s not much that can’t be processed as well on a tablet as on a PC. Ignore the interface and the 512MB-1GB memory constraint, and you have just as powerful a machine. Only much smaller.
  
  I think many people still believe in the old mantra “bigger is better”, despite amazing evidence to the contrary in their everyday lives.
- http://twitter.com/fillupt Philip Turnbull
  
  You can’t cherry-pick examples of old forecasts on separate topics and in any way imply that it affects the accuracy of this one.
- Anonymous
  
  Since you know that the PC isn’t dead, use your accurate knowledge and make some investments in the PC industry.
  
  I’m sure the mainframers of the 1970s were happy with their investments.
  
  Of course, that would ignore the fact that predictions are useless and history is fact.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Viki-Maverick/100002523433166 Viki Maverick
  
  Yay. Windoze will bulldoze the competition.
- Mmontrezjones
  
  -_-
- Acftootsie12
  
  I don’t think it’s stupid. I just think it’s a tad unrealistic. Do they honestly think that tablets and iPads are going to replace PCs in the business world? That’s where all your PCs are. It might work for some, but everyone knows you can’t do serious work on an iPhone/iPad or some Android device.
Guest

Gotta hand it to Jobs, he’s a Sun Tzu master. He’s got Dell, MS, HP, Acer, and everyone else in the PC food chain on defense and arguing against a concept that plays to Apple’s strengths and avoids its weakness (5% worldwide PC share after a decade of trying)

“Use alliances and strategic control points in the industry to “shape” your opponents and make them conform to your will.

“Therefore, those skilled in war bring the enemy to the field of battle and are not brought there by him.”
–Sun Tzu
“Shaping you competition” means changing the rules of contest and making the competition conform to your desires and your actions. It means taking control of the situation away from your competitor and putting it in your own hands. One way of doing so is through the skillful use of alliances. By building a strong web of alliances, the moves of your competitors can be limited. Also, by controlling key strategic points in your industry, you will be able to call the tune to which your competitors dance.”
- Anonymous
  
  Apple has the entire PC industry scared out of their minds. Steve Jobs will have that one little bit of pleasure as he expires.
- Guest
  
  Any chance we could get you to go with your messiah?
- Anonymous
  
  Guest, haha you are on a roll today. lol
  
  I cant even put the complete blame on Jobs. I mostly blame the idiotic bloggers and ignorant public for running with this stupid notion. I imagine anyone else making this claim would have been tarred and feathered, but they take Jobs words as law.
  
  What is 15 million ipads anyway to the 7+ billion of people in the world. The US population alone is just over 320 million, PCs are counted at over billion (and that’s just windows). But I guess the ones whom actually believed 15 million ipads are the death knell to PCs, live in a much smaller world. Nudge me when it reaches 200 mil.
Anonymous

Tablet is a race between windows 8 and iPad which at a later date Windows 8 would win, but Andrioid would be behind iOS it would be a race between Apple and Microsoft, Andrioid vs windows is the windows phone which would be ahead of iOS

Dell should have better design, their designs sucks, they need better designs
- Anonymous
  
  Their Dell Venue Pro looks gorgeous, and they have some beautiful pc’s IMO
http://twitter.com/laserfloyd Lewis McCrary

PC = Media creation
Tablet = Media reader

I’ll always have a PC because I make a living with one.
- Anonymous
  
  Nonsense. Musical artists are already composing/recording whole albums on iPads…
- Aby
  
  Really? when was the last time an artist created an album on iPad besides for the cheap publicity.
- Anonymous
  
  http://www.cultofmac.com/89165/band-the-ultramods-releases-album-recorded-in-garageband-for-ipad/
- Anonymous
  
  linking to cultofmac = instant fail, Guess what was used to create the tools used for recording. You cant make iPad apps with an iPad, but you sure as hell can with a windows tablet
- Anonymous
  
  First, you need to buy Visual Studio Pro 2010, which starts at $799. You can buy a used Intel Mac for less than that, and do all the iPad dev you want with Xcode, which is free. Problem solved.
- Anonymous
  
  Yeah or you can get it for free from Microsoft through the various partnerships and programs they make readily available. Paying face value like that is just stupid, also that Mac is still a PC.
- Anonymous
  
  Agreed. Never pay retail… Or taxes, if you can avoid them…
- Guest
  
  Another lie:
  
  http://www.microsoft.com/express
- Anonymous
  
  Can you do 64-bit dev with that? No you can’t. There’s a lot more missing from it too. You could try reading about the product before commenting, you know.
  
  “Note: Visual C++ Express provides a subset of the functionality that is available in other Visual C++ editions. Therefore, some components, libraries, or features available in these editions are not available in this version of the product, even though they might be discussed in the documentation. For these features, you would have to upgrade to another version of Visual C++. For more information about these editions, see Visual C++ Editions.”
- Guest
  
  Yes. You just need to install the Windows SDK as well and be sure to select the x64 compilers and tools during that process.
  
  You were advised of this the other day when you made the same stupid and inaccurate comment. Maybe if you get told once more it will finally sink in.
- Anonymous
  
  Interesting memory you have… You remember things that didn’t happen. I’ve never had a conversation before this one about VS missing components. Disqus has this handy search feature you can use to check. Try using it some time. It’ll help to hide your onset of dementia.
  
  And how about the rest of the missing components? How do you add those?
  No resource editor.No built-in MFC support.No built-in ATL support.No profiling support.No support for OpenMP.No support for add-ins or IDE macros.No debug memory or registers window and only one watch window.
- Guest
  
  You were probably using one of your other aliases then. I imagine it must get confusing keeping track of them all.
- Anonymous
  
  You argument is the first place was we had to pay $799 for developing Windows Apps. And when countered with VS Express. You ask for OpenMP support. How many of us use OpenMP huh!!! And if you cant figure out how to use ATL or MFC is VisualStudio your a sucker who is unfit to code in the first place
- Anonymous
  
  I’m just going on what Microsoft says…
- john
  
  Pwned that dumbass. Thanks for doing society a favor.
- Anonymous
  
  After listening to the music of the band mentioned at that site, you can definitely tell it was made by garage band. It very simple and amateurish.
- http://www.facebook.com/ddjeffries Danny Jeffries
  
  The Gorillaz.
- Anonymous
  
  There’s not a single computer technology that hasn’t been used in music. Mostly for publicity stunts in their early days, but many later become mainstream.
  
  CGI was a gimmick back in 1984 when Dire Straits did “Money for Nothing”… Today, CGI is used extensively. Computerized synthesizers were introduced to music back in the 60s. Gimmick then, mainstream now. PC based wav samplers. Gimmick in 1990, mainstream now. MP3. Gimmick in 1998, mainstream now.And now the iPad. Gimmick now, maybe mainstream tomorrow…
- Guest
  
  Thanks for the history lesson, gramps.
- Anonymous
  
  It’s called reading, sonny… You know, that thing you can do with Wikipedia and other sites, where you can learn stuff about the world, and about computers, and how they’re used. It’s mostly free, and searching takes mere seconds. Even a 15 year old can read about what I last mentioned.
- Mmontrezjones
  
  . . . . Wikipedia ?? xDStay off the internet if you dont know how to use it silly goose. . .
- Anonymous
  
  Did you fail to read “and other sites”? Should I have named the hundreds of thousands of other information sources?
  
  I thought that saying “and other sites” would have been sufficient to show that Wikipedia wasn’t the only source of information. I guess I’ll have to be more verbose in the future.
- Anonymous
  
  When it become more powerful, then sure. Right now it’s a gimmick. The CGI in the dire strait video wasn’t anything special. Now it’s ultra realistic. With all teh technology, the best music is still made with real instruments. Let’s just hope autotune is a very short lived gimmick.
- Anonymous
  
  Ugh!!!! Autotune!! No talent hacks calling that shit music!! What a wonderful world it would be if music was made by real musicians, playing real drums, real guitars, real pianos. Brass! OK… Maybe the digital equivalent instruments are OK, but they should at least play them, not Milli-Vanilli them.
  
  Autotune needs to die! Along with Britney Spears!
  
  The CGI in the Dire Straits video was almost cutting edge when the video was released. Then Mick Jagger did a CGI video too. I don’t think CGI was really heralded as being fantastic in music videos until “Waterfalls” by TLC. That was an amazing video for its day, and even now…
- Anonymous
  
  I don’t think they have Pro tools for Ipad. If they did, I bet it’s limited seeing the Ipad doesn’t have the same power as a G5
- Anonymous
  
  Garageband for iOS. iWork for iOS. Fingerpainting apps. All kinds of stuff if you open up your mind….
- http://twitter.com/starksimon Stark
  
  Go back to your cave, troll.
- Anonymous
  
  Everything you just mentioned was created on a PC, the iPad cant replace a PC. At best it can be a secondary device.
- Anonymous
  
  he means professionaly and with high quality.
  
  like im a 3d designer… i wouldn’t be able to do anything with ipad, because 1 bad gpu, and 2 not a powerful processor. or compositing where you need aloooot of memory, same with video editing, and graphic design. you wont make a full design like 90*70 cms, with obviously cmyk output or pantone.
  
  and i dont know about audio editing or recording so i cant say anthing about it
  but ipad doesn’t have the required software to do anything of this.
- Anonymous
  
  Could you do 3D design in 1999? The iPad has a better video card and greater processing power than was available back then… The memory constraint could be a real killer though. Screen size sucks too, but I remember 3D back then on 15″ 1024×768 monitors.
- Guest
  
  What’s the point of that argument? iPads didn’t exist in 1999.
  
  How about CFD analysis + modeling. Surely you can do it on any PC but none of that on any Apple devices.
- Anonymous
  
  Neither did dual-core 1GHz chips. Yet 3D animated movies existed back then. Since a Mac IS a PC, then yes you can CFD on an Apple device. Not for scientific study on an iPad today, but CFD is used in some stupid visualizer type apps. The hardware is hardly the problem, as a 450MHz P2 chip from 1999 is more than sufficient.
- Guest
  
  Funny, I remember high performance workstations with large screen monitors doing complex solids rendering that could be rotated with realistic light effects in real time. Guess you must have been working at Radio Shack.
- Anonymous
  
  The only thing Radio Shack was ever good for was batteries, and the Armatron… but that was too noisy.
  
  I remember high powered workstations too. The fact that they existed doesn’t change the fact that low powered systems were also used for 3D work, which was my point, although I see I wasn’t clear enough.
  
  3ds max worked on the lowly Pentium. In fact, the movies “The Green Mile” and “The Mummy” (both 1999) were made using 3ds Max. Only Pentium IIs (up to 450MHz) were available then. Sluggish by today’s standards.
  
  Claiming a 1GHz dual-core chip today isn’t powerful enough is ridiculous, especially since 450 MHz chips was good enough 12 years ago.
- Anonymous
  
  Yes, good Idea. Let’s undo all the advances we made the past 10 years and go back to working like we did in 1999.
- Anonymous
  
  How does showing that something could be done in 1999 mean that the computing power advances of the last ten years should be thrown out? Did I say the advances weren’t useful? All I showed was that the impossibility of doing the work on lower powered hardware (the original statement) was in fact false.
- Anonymous
  
  The problem is that you are comparing the ipad to over a decade old hardware. By today’s standards, the ipad is a toy. Talk to us when the ipad can produce something the The Avatar. All you’re proving is that the ipad would have been the shit in 1999.
- Anonymous
  
  Seriously… A 1 GHz dual-core system would have been shit in 1999? Back when the P2 450 and 12MB Voodoo2 were top of the line. Seriously?
- Anonymous
  
  Wow. Either you see what you want to see or Guest was right when he called you gramps. “…THE shit…” is what I wrote, meaning great – as in, the ipad would have been great in 1999. But we can go on all day and into next week about how today’s tech is so much better than yesterday’s and get nowhere.
- Anonymous
  
  Hahahaha!!! Totally missed that!! THE shit, not shit! OOOOPS! (cowering in shame!)
- Guest
  
  One song at a time.
- john
  
  Its a publicity stunt. The reason it gets made into such a big deal is precisely because its inconvenient.
- Guest
  
  Teletubbies don’t count.
http://www.layeredbyte.com/ Holden Page

Much love for Michael Dell for seeing what Microsoft is trying to do.
MyNameHere

I don’t understand why Apple pushes this “Post-PC” crap. For one, if they want to be honest, at least call it Post-MS, because that’s what they are really hoping for. But the reality is that it isn’t going to happen the way they dream about.

In addition, the “Post-PC” era would then also mean Post-Mac. Why would people dump their desktops for tablets/phones but somehow the same doesn’t apply to Apple’s desktops? So in this Post-PC fantasy of theirs, the Mac then also goes away, leaving them with nothing but their line of iBaubles. Putting all of your eggs on a single line of products, where each product is the essentially the exact same thing except for a different form factor (iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch), is very risky. All it takes is one other company to create the Next Shiny Object and you are dead. We already see that iPhone can’t keep up with Android. All it takes now is a good iPad competitor to came along, and the Bauble Factory is toast.

I love how people often act as if MS doesn’t exist, or is a has-been, only to see MS wipe the floor with them down the line. Prepare for another floor wiping…
- Gzproger
  
  when they say Post-PC, them DO mean POST-MS………..
- Anonymous
  
  MS is so dead! Just go into any university lecture hall and they’re all Macbook Airs and Pros!
- Steve Jobs
  
  Just go back to Israel and like with the rest of the Apple Lovers!
- Anonymous
  
  Am Yisrael Chai!
- Benjamin Netanyahu
  
  Am yisrael get lost instead of live! What a Zionist I can tell by the Bush Junior picture
- MyNameHere
  
  I really think you need a reality check:
  http://marketshare.hitslink.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=9&qpcustomb=0&qpct=2
  
  So basically, in a supposed “good” year for the Mac, it gained a whopping 0.87% against MS’s 92.9%. Seriously, how long do you think it is going to take for OSX to overtake Windows? How is Windows “dead”?
  
  You also apparently forgot that MS had record profits in the last Q.
  
  And you seem to think MS is only in the business of producing baubles like Apple does. MS does way more than just create baubles. Real businesses run on the product MS creates. Look it up…
- Anonymous
  
  News flash. Last quarter Apple posted record profits and MSFT profits were DOWN from last quarter!
- GaryGibsonUSMC
  
  Good point!
- MyNameHere
  
  Yes, as I’m trying to explain to you – Apple is currently having a good run selling shiny baubles. Once that bubble bursts, they have nowhere to go but down. Apple is basically putting all of their eggs in the iPad/iPod/iPhone basket. They abandoned their attempts at the server market. Their latest OSX release is being called their “Vista” due to how buggy and unfinished it is.
  
  MS on the other hand is much more diversified, and they have a huge portfolio of very successful products. If they can’t get “Teh Shiny”, finger-painting crowd initially, it doesn’t really matter that much since they certainly have the resources to keep improving their products. Not just that, they don’t need the finger-painting crowd, they make more than enough money in other successful products, something Apple can’t say.
  
  It appears to me though that it is people like you that are getting all worried, hence the trolling on sites like these. With everything MS was showing last week, if I was a Apple troll I’d also get worried. I advise you to stick to websites like http://www.AppleAreTehBestest.com since they all suck up to your savior, Steve Jobs. Oh wait, he resigned…
- Anonymous
  
  You’re a joke. First in 2006 they said Apple is just the iPod. Then in 2009 they said it was just iPod/iPhone. Now you say it’s “iPod/iPhone/iPad”. Now Apple is bringing the iCloud online. That’s a mighty BIG basket. iPhone alone brings in $13 billion revenue last quarter!
  
  Steve Jobs only resigned because he’s on death’s door. scum!
- Anonymous
  
  OMG . iCloud powered by Windows Azure .
- Anonymous
  
  Only for prototyping, the final datacenter will run on Mac OS X.
- IwubSteveJobs
  
  Sure, shill. Sure.
- MyNameHere
  
  Are you just making that up or do you have actual proof?
  
  And no, rant on http://www.AppleAreTehBestest.com isn’t proof.
- GaryGibson
  
  Wrong. The primary processing is being done on AIX, Linux, and Sun Solaris systems. IBM’s high-availability
  clusters are playing a key role, along with those from Veritas and Oracle. OS X is represented, but not as the primary server fabric. And of course the person designing the infrastructure used to work for MS, so I guess Apple realized they knew shit in this area.
- Guest
  
  Try again, dirtbag:
  
  http://www.businessinsider.com/what-kind-of-gear-is-apple-using-in-its-huge-new-datacenter-2011-6
- MyNameHere
  
  “Now Apple is bringing the iCloud online”
  
  LOL, you do know that iCloud runs on Azure and Amazon Web Services, right? Which just proves my point once again that Apple is a bit player in the real world, with a successful line of shiny doo-dahs that currently sell very well.
  
  When you scratch the surface, there just isn’t much substance there.
- Anonymous
  
  In watching the keynote where Post PC was mentioned, I saw that it mostly had to do with demoting the PC from being the main computing hub to just another piece of the computing pie.
  
  The PC is no longer the main computing focus. Your information is. Your own PC may provide the bulk of your personal data storage, but all devices can share and use your information easily. PCs, tablets, and phones. It’s the same thing SkyDrive is supposed to allow, with a different method of execution.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Mitch-Foster/100000527225418 Mitch Foster
  
  Although GDal’s tone oftentimes seems rather negative, I like what this guy has to say. Most of what he says makes perfect sense from a logical point of view
- Anonymous
  
  Thank you Mitch.
  
  I don’t want to seem negative, but it seems disagreement is often taken that way. Still, there are those who engage in good conversation (80/20 rule?), and I’ve had a few good ones here. Some end in agreement, others not, but I have enjoyed many. I’ve also learned quite a bit from some of the chats I’ve had.
- Anonymous
  
  Jobs pushed the post-pc crap because that’s what his company sells. They’ve had 10 years of ipod, then iphone, then ipad…and nothing has moved their Mac line. They have failed to budge in marketshare. So he has to float this crap to push what’s actually selling well in their gadget roster. What’s funny is a lot of the journalists ate it and actually deluded themselves into believing it.
- http://twitter.com/jimmyfal Jimmy Fallon
  
  “”What’s funny is a lot of the journalists ate it and actually deluded themselves into believing it.
  “”
  
  Change that to the MAJORITY of the journalists. If you can call them that. They are in for such a rude awakening.
- http://www.facebook.com/richeymeister Mark Richey
  
  Yeah, I’d like to see them upgrade and sync their iPods and iPhones to their iPad. Yikes!
Inkog3

Dell often makes decent hardware, its thier craptastic software that has always brought their products down.
Josh T.

After seeing BUILD, I thought it was kind of obvious that the future of PCs is not tablets. I think they’re going in the right direction with Windows 8. PCs aren’t going away; they’re just going to merge with tablets. I loved the idea of that Samsung tablet that docks into a charger with loads of ports and a wireless keyboard. Just use it as a desktop PC, but take it out when you want to use it on the go. That’s what I think the “post-PC” era is.
Jimmybanks

it seems that everything Mr.Arrogant Dell ignores talks down ends up slapping him in the face, this comment of his is more proof of the reality that post-pc is becoming more standard, to ignore this fact is pathetic.

especially since windows is now completely coded for tablets and less for desktop with the desktop an “app” whether you want to admit it or not…
- Jimmybanks
  
  since i cant edit, ignore hte word, ignores, i changed my wording and didnt delete that word!
- Justwondering
  
  Apparently you can’t spell or form proper English sentences either. Why are all trolls who come here so impaired?
- Anonymous
  
  Remember this is the same man who said Apple should have been sold off as scraps in the late 90s. He knows he’s been utterly humiliated and if he were Japanese would have already done sepeku.
- Guest
  
  And at the time do did most of the industry and the market.
- Anonymous
  
  They should all commit ritual suicide to cleanse their humiliation.
- Guest
  
  Feel free to get the mass suicide started.
- Anonymous
  
  So should you.
- Guest
  
  Could you two trolls get a room? Thanks.
- Texasdoofus
  
  You never were very good with the details, George. The word you’re looking for there is Seppuku.
- GaryGibson
  
  Send in the marines!
- Arsr
  
  yes, and I think Apple has learned something form Dell.
  They can´t do anything on the PC market so they are leaving this market claming that the Post-PC era is here, and killing their Mac line.
  
  iPad is a toy. Good luck with that PC replacement…..
- Anonymous
  
  Technically speaking, the desktop was always an app. I used to play with Windows and once tweaked it to run without the desktop, launching apps from a command line window. I don’t think anything’s really changed in that regard in Windows 8, except the Metro overlay/interface taking priority.
- Anonymous
  
  So killing explorer.exe and launching cmd.exe is an achievement ah !!!!!
  Ever heard of WinRT , if uve heard u wouldnt say Metro is just a shell. Its a programming paradigm shift
- Anonymous
  
  I never claimed killing explorer.exe was a significant achievement. I simply said I had done it. Just like millions of other people had. The point was about it being an app.
  
  Programming paradigm shift? Having an new interface is a programming paradigm shift? It may be an interface paradigm shift, but it is certainly not a programming shift. Same tools, same languages, same logic processes. Even when using WinRT, the same logic rules apply.
- Anonymous
  
  I said WinRT was a shift not Metro. For all people who have been using Procedural Win32 yes WinRT is a major paradigm shift of looking at the API subset even if it means they are just COM wrappers aroung existing Native Services. So yes it is a shift
- Anonymous
  
  “Even when using WinRT, the same logic rules apply.”
  
  Honestly, I didn’t know that Win32 was procedural. I was under the impression that that had changed back before the days of NT 4. Even so, WinRT does not represent a paradigm shift in programming, but in Windows application development. The C to C++ adoption move (an actual paradigm shift) happened in the early 90s.
  
  I haven’t looked, but is WinRT fully OO? If so, good… and about time
Anonymous

As he should.
Anonymous

Michael Dell… The man who bet against Apple regaining viability and belittled it publicly. Then sat back and watched it become the largest corporation (market cap) in the world, a position Dell, Inc. has no chance of ever even sniffing. While he may be right in the end, I wouldn’t place much confidence in his judgement. Mark Cuban is a better judge.
- Anonymous
  
  Can you imagine how Michael Dell must feel right now? Utterly humiliated! He can’t show his face outside of Dell HQ for fear of being laughed at! Same thing with monkey boy Ballmer and his “iPhone will fail”. Guess what – Windows Phone is a FAIL!!!!
- Predisposable_nym
  
  HA AHA AHAAH HAA HAHHA.
- Mark
  
  Oh no, is that who that dumbass is?
- Anonymous
  
  Well, I wouldn’t go that far with Dell. He’s had plenty of time to lick his wounds. And, from what I saw of Ballmer in his keynote, he’s calmed down a lot since his “developers developers developers” days… Him laughing at the iPhone, then watching the sales explosion sure was humbling.
- Guest
  
  Yeah, I bet he can barely make it out of bed in the morning. LOL.
- Anonymous
  
  Considering Dell is teetering on the verge of bankruptcy! Hell, Dell should sell off all their assets and close shop!
- Guest
  
  Dell has more than $14.5B of cash and cash equivalents, Dubya dumbass.
- Anonymous
  
  Cash in reserves is not always a good indicator.
  
  GM in 2003 was reported to have a huge hoard of cash in reserves. They had more cash than the company was worth in market cap. It was joked that someone could buy GM, shut it down and walk away with a huge profit.
  
  A couple years later, GM was struggling with huge losses that wiped out their cash reserves. By 2009 they were filing for bankruptcy.
  
  While I don’t think Dell will crash (no research), using the cash reserves as a major indicator of health is not good.
Anonymous

My Windows tablet will probably be a dell. (I Plan on buying one of the first) They have really stepped up i quality and are one of the few Companys that dont buy into everyones BS.

Mr. Dell, you probably won’t ever read this but. Keep on Keeping on.
http://www.facebook.com/richeymeister Mark Richey

“A fight! A fight! Lucy and Snoopy are having a fight!”

Just as many musicians are creating on Win platforms as Macs, and just as many desktop publishers, just as many designers just as many programmers. I think you have all hit on the problem with this “Post PC” era. We still need devices to connect to the cloud. We still need varied platforms to connect to one another. The Post-PC era is not only erroneous but over hyped. I use the tools I use as I always have….shoot, I was doing dance production music on Cakewalk 4.0 in DOS! You use what you have and push the envelope to get better!
- Anonymous
  
  Use the tools that fit the purpose, not the hype, I say.
FMH

This is the most interesting line:

“ He also revealed that he feels the tablet market is a two horse race between Android and Windows 8.”
- Anonymous
  
  That is just a stupid statement! Android, a flailing (yes I do mean ‘flailing’) tablet product line, and Windows 8, an unreleased product. Where was his head when he said that?

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Dell CEO dismisses “post-PC” era talk, looks to Windows 8 future