Hands on: Nokia Lumia 800 Windows Phone [video]

By Tom Warren, on 26th Oct 11 10:57 am with 89 Comments

Nokia Lumia 800

Nokia’s Lumia 800 device is the flagship Windows Phone for Nokia.

The device looks and feels the part. The Lumia 800 feels great in the hand and features Nokia’s classic hardware design. Check out the hands on video below.

Mobile user

Good things on 800 are
Looks great,
great turn by Turn.

Not so good things
No Front Facing camera
No NFC
No FM-transmitter
No 32MB or 64MB versions
No US release for holidays,
Overall it is lackluster is all I can say. But still let us see what they have for US
in 2012. Looks like ACE is somebody’s imagination.
Windows Phone is a great OS. I think OEMs need to step up on the hardware end. I was expecting Nokia to do a better job. Compare to other platforms, the hardware is a joke on WP7 platform.
I know why Nokia did not release in US. It cannot compete with iPhone 4S or Galaxy SII.

And now… I go for the Titan……………………

http://www.facebook.com/matthewjohnston4 Matthew Johnston

I wouldn’t mind bigger storage (although I’ll settle for a Spotify app instead) but the rest is not important to the wider-market of consumers. Nokia are being smart, they’re focusing on strengths:
- Front facing cameras are a novelty, not even Apple could make them catch on, Europe has been through that phase already (during the launch of 3G networks) and it never sparked even a modicum of interest
- NFC is years away from being relevant, outside of the Valley. Admittedly the NFC stuff in the N9 sounded cool.
- It does have FM radio (unless you mean like an iTrip, in which case – why??)

As for a US release, again, I think this is because they’re focused on their strengths, generally they haven’t done as well in the US as they have in Europe. They probably want to ramp up production too. It’ll get there.

Definitely my next phone, I think I might even buy it SIM free
Mobile user

Great rebuttal to my opinions. On FM radio side, they did not advertise FM radio being in there, so I thought it is not included. My fault then. No I was not talking about iTrip. I know that is useless.
About FFC. Many people here use it for business purposes like Tango Software or Skype. It easily comes in handy for Face to Face talk (Pun Intended).
http://twitter.com/janespoon1 janespoon

Wp7 has to bad specs, With a market of less than 1%. Who wants to write apps and games when it does not give any money
http://twitter.com/blakehaas blakehaas

@twitter-393777482:disqus You’re way wrong. There is so much dev support for the windows phone platform. The Marketplace is growing faster than any other platforms ever did and it is by far the easiest mobile platform to develop for. As for making money, it has been shown that on average developers apps make more on Windows Phone than they do on Android or IOS.
Anonymous

i had a front facing camera in my almost 4 year old HTC diamond lying somewhere in my thrash at home.. i never used it and I dont think ever will but there are something which wouldnt hurt if they are there just for marketing puposes. Just for their own sake they could have included front facing camera and nfc.. even if they might be sitting there doing nothing… people just like the feeling of having stuff.. dont forget about that

So far apart fromthe increase in processor power this is a less adequate device than the n9. Why would any current wp7 throw away his device for this? or why would a new wp7 user choose this over the Titan or Radar? Nokia just didn’t do enough..
http://www.facebook.com/matthewjohnston4 Matthew Johnston

I’m not sure, but I’m pretty certain this device isn’t targeted at people who already have a Windows Phone – there’s a much bigger market out there of people who don’t!

But, having said that, I have an Omnia 7 (about a year old now) and I’m really tempted to buy one of these Lumia 800′s. I’m not sure why, I think it’s a combination of the amazing looking and solidly built hardware, the Nokia Drive app, as well as the camera and battery (Nokia have nearly mastered this stuff, more so than Apple imo). Also, I think I put more faith in Nokia pushing this OS going forward than I do with Samsung. Nokia are all-in whereas Samsung aren’t. Big difference.
http://twitter.com/abhaynaik08 Abhay Naik

The not so good things list is basically because of lack of WP7.5 feature support.

Does WP7.5 support these?

Nokia already has lots of phone with all the above listed features….

I think Nokia and MS have certainly tried to push a product release without putting much efforts…May be in Feb 2011 they will bring the best Nokia hardware to WP. May be by that time WP will catch up with the Nokia feature sets…
Mobile user

How is adding 32GB version anot supported, Dell had from day one of this OS. FFC support is available. Some of the HTC phones are already featuring it. There are apps like Tango and Skype coming this fall. In the past 8 months, Nokia could have added NFC support and HDMI out support. Or Is wrting device drivers that difficult to this OS or does MS restricts OEMs to add their own device drivers. What kind of customizations Nokia can do then? Now Nokia is mentioning until Appolo things will be like this and that is is like an year away.
Really if people need to go on contract for 24 months on this phone, it will be way outdated. It is already outdated compared to Android phones and iPhones. Just from Nokia point of View, they have so many accessories with NFC support that they cannot sell it with this phone. Developers like me would not be able to make money selling apps for this ecosystem as it exists now. Wp7 ecosystem do not have lots of users as lots of fanboys claim here, we need users to be upgraded with OS pretty regularly as we can publish more apps taking advantage of hardware in there. Have you ever noticed why the app prices in WP7 costs quite a lot more compared to android or ios.

http://twitter.com/MichielPapp Michiel Papp

Nice,

If i didn’t already have a wp7 this would be the one i would buy.
Nicola Mastrandrea

Where is the front facing camera?

http://twitter.com/Pieter_Kroon Pieter Kroon

There is no front facing camera
Binlid1

This is an very hard decision to understand! FFC support is pretty much standard these days…Nokia here are offering a handicapped here, IMO.

I love everything about the LUMIA device except for this omission and it is a deal breaker for me. I want to video call my kids via Skype while at work and call into conferences via Lync.

Nokia will not support that so HTC Titan is the only phone for me at this point.
Titan is great and was always my choice unless Nokia could blow me away (which I expected them to)
They didn’t…Nokia’s loss. HTC’s win.
Sonic_Extreme

I am also not happy about no FFC. But these are not for the US. At the end of the Conference Elop talks about the countrys these will ship for and that in early 2012 they will announce a porfolio of devices to enter in to the US. He also mentions that they will bring LTE and CDMA devices to address “especific regions”. Which also pretty much confirms that a higher end phone or phones will make it to the US in early 2012. “which i think according to NOkia they have been saying that there more robust phones will be until 2012.

http://voguishtech.com Wemberg Carlo Estil

Dear Nokia
I was willing to give you a chance, but you obviously don’t want to work with me , I believe you can still surprise me tomorrow, if at the end of the Nokia world event I don’t have a high end respectable device (leaked n9 please) coming out this year I’m gonna have to let you go. Sincerely a windows phone user.

Anonymous

sigh
phil jay

sigh *nokia works with you*
Anonymous

What you mean high end? How hard is that for Nokia to put in 64G RAM, or 32M camera, or 5.0″ screen? I guess if you asked they can give you tomorrow. The thing is they have to find the right price point.
Anonymous

Sigh

http://twitter.com/OldCongress Gamer

HOLY SHIT, you got me NOKIA. I will get one of your Sea Ray in Nokia Store when its released in Singapore!
Thank god Singapore is the main distributor for Asia and its getting N9 and Lumia 800/701.
Anonymous

While this doesn’t have a some of the specs I would like to see (FFC, >4″ screen) it really does inspire me to wait for their US release devices. We do know that there will be 12+ WP7 devices that will be released in 2012 and if MS adds LTE, 720p screens, and Dual Core support with Tango/Apollo I think WP7.7/8 will really be the phone to have.

Collins

WP8 (Apollo) will definitely have LTE and dual-core support. I still haven’t been able to find out what’s up with 720p, but it does seem more and more likely.

http://twitter.com/swoop5511 Sergej Using

Just wish they would offer something with a 4.3″ or so screen and 32gig storage. After using the HD2/HD7 I dont want to go back to small screens.

Joe_HTH

WE WAITED FOR A YEAR FOR THIS… yawwwwwwwnnnnn

http://www.facebook.com/aerosmillie David Smillie

I’m struggling with this one….here’s why.

Battery life looks superb (better than iPhone)

Fantastic design (Engadget says ‘possibly the most beautiful phone ever made’)….on a personal side-note, I love the variations in colours too.

Brilliant display

Screen size….is 3.7″ enough? (bigger than iPhone, far smaller than recently released HTC Titan)

No Front-facing Camera (with Skype for WP7 on the way I can’t help but think this was a massive mistake for the longevity of the phone)

I love using Windows Phone 7.5 and know that the OS runs smoothly enough without Dual-Core…but what to do???

Anonymous

How many people actually use front facing camera? If i’m at home and want to talk, i get on my xbox with kinect. If i’m on the road, 3g is to expensive for camera talk and if i’m at work, internal wifi is blocked and again, 3g is too slow / expensive.
Candid Calum

Some of us in the UK have unlimited data on our plans, so the cost of 3G isn’t a problem; providing it’s fast enough, a front-facing camera for Skype would be beneficial to many of us.
J A

It is indeed disappointing to exclude front-facing camera (FFC), perhaps they plan to deliver a different model of the same hardware design with this feature down the line because this is indeed the most beautiful hardware design and it would sell like hot cake if it is more complete with FFC. I have an unlimited data plan and have no issue with video calling, so does my wife and many others.
Svennelito

No FFC?!! With the lync client on it’s way!
Anonymous

the font is segoe. The “pure” rumor wasn’t true.
Anonymous

I don’t understand you guys, maybe that’s my problem. How important is FFC really. I can tell you, the most demanded feature called copy/paste, I haven’t used even once now.
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3OIDXOI5OEMTX6Z3O5YUBFSISA Diego3336

Maybe because it is a 420 Euros cellphone? And you can get a whole better hardware for the same price?
NarcoSleepy

I use this quite a lot, since my phone for some reason takes 4 or 5 attempts to connect to our corp’s hidden wi-fi network. I copy our crazy 20-some character password and paste it after it repeatedly fails. Any idea why it is taking several attempts to authenticate to a hidden wi-fi network, btw?
Flying Madden

i have witnessed the same issue with a friends blackberry
Guest

Regardless of how important it is, lack of one immediately calls out a disadvantage versus competitors. That’s something Nokia shouldn’t want at this point. With everything that’s riding on this, they should have delivered a phone that was better in virtually every obvious way, sort of dual core.
Guest

sort > short
http://twitter.com/abhaynaik08 Abhay Naik

The issue is not with Nokia, It should be with WP7.5 not supporting the FFC. Nokia started with the front facing cameras on their N series way back…may be 5-6 years back…

You do need a FFC. You can use this with a wifi connection….It is a very useful feature….and I think they should have added atleast a VGA camera…..Nokia N9 from which the new phone is copied already has a FFC so for Nokia, it would have been no issue at all…May be they could have atleast deactivated the camera at the time of product release and then reactivated it with a firmware update lateron…. Think about this….If you buy this phone with a 2 year contract, you will not have a FFC for two straight years…

I love Nokia phones…Have been using them for last 10 years or so…But this one doesn’t feel like a breakthrough phone for me…May in in Feb 2012 with the Mobile world they may bring a Nokia phone that will be called a real flagship phone….something that has a better camera than The best N8 camera till date…
Anonymous

@twitter-139708624:disqus the issue is with nokia. the htc titan, radar, and samsung focus s and (i think?) omnia w have ffcameras. wp7.5 does support ffcameras.
http://twitter.com/hchooley Matt Baldwin

Agreed on the FFC. Its near worthless. However, I’d like to chime in and say I use copy/paste _all the time_.
J A

Microsoft, this is how GPS navigation is done. I hope you guys learn from Nokia even though you did a better job on WinMo6.5 with Bing Maps for Mobile.

Anonymous

It’s something different, but it’s not something unique.
Waiting in bated breath for the second wave.
http://twitter.com/Pieter_Kroon Pieter Kroon

Please tell me, and please note your source, does the Nokia Lumia 800 have Gorilla Glass, or not? Engadget seems to have copy-pasted this from the Nokia N9 since they also stated the screen to be 3.9 inch and they were talking about Windows Mobile instead of Windows Phone which I found rather shocking. These mistakes make me reluctant to believe that the phone has gorilla glass. The full specs sheet of Nokia does not say it does… and the same sheet for the N9 does say that. Which bothers me… does it have gorilla glass, or not?

Hansmueller

yes, 100%
http://twitter.com/Pieter_Kroon Pieter Kroon

But how do you know, what is your source? The specs page of the Lumia 800 doesn’t say it has Gorilla Glass: http://www.developer.nokia.com/Devices/Device_specifications/Lumia_800/. but it does say that on the specs page of the N9, which is the disturbing thing. http://www.developer.nokia.com/Devices/Device_specifications/N9/
Anonymous

its go Gorilla glass !!!.. N9 has a Corning® Gorilla® Glass which is used in this phone ias well why could it be just a Corning® glass.. its still shit!!

Anonymous

Stucked at 16gb, no NFC, no front camera, 3.7″ display, no apps, is this what Nokia is bringing to the table? MS should go for their money and start making their own phones… they will do a amuch better job.. I for one is not buying tis peice of shit.. yes .. i have been defensive of Nokia and this is the shit they disgrace me with?
Anonymous

OMG, when are they going to build better windows phone? This is absolute $hit compared to all the phones being released!! to think, i actually waited for this. Sorry fellow readers but this is just not good enough. its like they want Microsoft to fail.
http://twitter.com/laserfloyd Lewis McCrary

Underwhelmed really. I mean the specs are “ok”. It looks slick from a build point of view also. Maybe I expected multiple devices rather than two. I just really don’t see anything as a whole that tells me to buy one of those as opposed to another brand.

I think the long, long wait had me anticipating something a little more “wow!”. 32GB of storage would have been something that could really set these flagship devices apart. That’s just it, nothing says stands out above the rest. :/

Another nitpick is the font; ugly as sin. Segoe or nothing!

Regardless, they aren’t available state side so, HTC or Samsung it is.

Anonymous

To wow you is easy, 64G storage, 32M camera, 5″ screen, right. I think any phone maker can do that today. If that’s what you want, I guess iphone is piece of junk to you, right?
http://twitter.com/DeadBlogisDead Dead Blog is Dead

easy question gets and easy answer. Yes, the iPhone is a junk, POS, gimmick. =]

http://twitter.com/JoshMartin7 Josh Martin

Yay a demo person who knows how the Windows Phone works! But I gotta say, I wanted mind-blowing specs. These are good/okay but not amazing. Even though the build quality will be better than most/all out there.
http://www.mainstreetchatham.com/ JimmyFal

Nokia needs to RAISE the bar. IF we don’t push them further, the market will. And now is not the time for the market to be the one to push them higher. They listened to what we wanted, then they ignored it, then they came out with a 3.7 inch screen, no FF camera. I feel like they are dumping old inventory on me. Sure it’s nice stuff, and I look forward to their entry in to this market, but this was a NO brainer. Arrogant if you ask me. Remember what Bill Gates said when that ITHING came out? “We didn’t aim high enough.” It’s time to aim higher NOKIA. Aim Higher. I’m sure I’ll take some hits for this comment but it’s not like we were asking too much here. Not unreasonable at all. Especially seeing as I won’t get my hands on one till 2012 and by then I’ll be eyeing the new Skype software that I won’t be able to use.

Anonymous

@jimmyfal…I am willing to give Nokia a pass here, but only because this version wasn’t released in the U.S. Yes, they should not have sacrificed the ffc, for the capacitive and dedicated camera buttons, especially given that Skype was in the pipeline. I don’t know, maybe since the Skype deal wasn’t finalized, they didn’t make the ‘effort’ to include it? I’m not making excuses, just trying to understand the logic behind the omission, and the button placement is not a valid excuse as far as I’m concerned.

Perhaps Tom Warren can interview S. Elop for an explanation!

ReturningToNokia

And the N9 gets a White version of this body style….Nokia could have really hit more of a home run if they would have given the Lumia 800 more colors. Oh well, hopefully, the U.S. version will have a White version, as well as perhaps a few tradition colors i.e. silver or gray.

GP007

The US version of whatever Nokia releases will be newer, I’m thinking 810 with cdma support and maybe even 32GB of storage as well. People are forgetting that Elop said that they’re going to release even more phones at the start of next year, these 2 aren’t going to be the only ones they do for 6-8 months etc. I expect to see at least 2 new models at CES in January.
http://twitter.com/abhaynaik08 Abhay Naik

releasing a new phone by January will not be profitable for Nokia…..as by that time they would have already lost the holiday season….at least in USA…
http://twitter.com/DeadBlogisDead Dead Blog is Dead

The only flaw in your logic is that, yes, people just getting their first mobile phone, will be missed after the holidays BUT people still have 2 year contracts so a January release wouldn’t be bad. Actually, as far as mobile goes, no time is a bad time to release.
Mobile user

They may aim for Valentine’s day sales and what not. It is not going to Jan release. Valentine’s day sale is pretty big too but not as big as Black friday (After Thanksgiving sale).

notePAD

I give up! software ok, hardware so soo! Scandinavia no noo!
Nonono

Other sites are saying it has TV out and USB Storage!

No doubt rubbish but it seems to be from Nokias official site.
Post

I have been waiting for Nokia for months but I’m disappointed today because once again it feels like a vendor not going all out. It is especially baffling here, given that Nokia has literally bet their company on wp7 and they somehow did not open up with a true hardware flagship competitive on every spec. I mean outside of the name on the front it is basically a low-end baseline wp7 device in terms of specs. There is not a single spec that is above the wp7 average. At first I thought MS’s strict hardware was a good idea but now it seems to be turning wp7 to be the nextgen UI forever doomed to be on last year’s hardware. Personally I won’t ever have a phone with a display under 4″ again (and seeing how 4″ Android phones are flying off the shelves I’m not the only one, it is actually the main reason people I know who have switch from the iPhone have done so) which makes this a non-starter but it doesn’t even break out of the box in terms of storage or…anything really.

Yeah, I get it, the build quality is the big factor here, I’m sure it is superb but it seems like the only differentiator. (Okay the camera too.) But that is not a true hero phone. This makes me think goog’s Nexus technique of releasing a true king of phones to really show off the software is not such a bad idea after all. Even if a front facing camera makes no difference to you how can you not see how absurd, how mind-numbingly scatterbrained it is that MS recently spent $8 Bn on Skype and is said to be intergrating across its entire product line and yet it’s flagship phone won’t support it? That kind of hole is the MS of old rearing its head, not the focused and smart one that created wp7.
Anonymous

Nokia Maps looks too smooth to be a Silverlight app. Do you think the Nokia apps are written like the native Microsoft apps?

(meaning C++ or something)

Seth_p

It’s managed code, so no C++. I’m sure they had some libraries carried over from C/C++ to C#, but that’s not entirely difficult. If an app doesn’t feel smooth – more than likely it’s the programmers fault. A lot of apps in the store have been ported from other platforms with very little consideration to WP model.

Zamy

I really wanted to buy this, but without Front Facing Camera, NFC, small Storage i will never buy that.
Sorry but why is this better than the Devices which got released last year?
Better Screen, better Camera and better quality, so why is this worth so much more money?
Nokia should close their whole technic Department and just design phones and sell them to other Phone makers, thats everything Nokia is actually good at
Anonymous

I’m really hoping they announce a 4 inch + phone soon.
http://twitter.com/HPWP7 Haris.Petrou

Maps are a great feature and international music could also be a huge plus. But I just found out that they completely disabled maps for my region, Cyprus. I googled it and there is all kinds of gibberish about why they removed everything about cyprus, except for the extremely detailed satelite images. Bing has a lot more, but no turn by turn navigation … and to think I bought shares in this company! what kind of business is that?
Massih

are you kidding me, after 8month they couldn’t even come up with the same N9?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!
no front facing camera???????????????????????????????????????
half Ram(compare to N9)

Seth_p

Does it really need 1GB RAM? Considering the multitasking layer only suspends 5 apps, I think 512MB is fine. Front facing camera they could have kept, I don’t get why they tossed it.
GP007

Maybe because the N9 needs way more to run smooth? It is Meego afterall, and btw, how much does teh N9 actually cost, i bet it’s a good chunk north of 420 euros.

If you wanted more Nokia could do it, but they’re going for valume, volume needs lower prices, lower prices means you cut stuff out or down. Besides they’res way more to making a phone than just slapping parts together and calling it a day, 8 months is good turn around for not just one but 2 new phones.

Binlid1

A lot of people claiming FFC is not important but that is just not true.MS just spent a fortune aquiring Skype only to have their flagship partner with their flagship phone NOT support Skypes main draw which is cheap, easy video calling.A huge aspect of MANGO was FFC support, and all “Mango phones” were supposed to have it so that Lync/Skype integartion would deliver a killer experience on WP7.It is true that most people don’t use video chat but the point of Skype/Lync integration was to change that.
Not so with Nokia.
Personally I want a FFC so I can make video calls to see my kids while I work. Wife and I were planning on getting Nokia’s phones and making this idea come alive.With the lack of any mention of FFC support from Nokia we are going out to by HTC Titans this weekend…
Nokia’s decision here is so boneheaded, baffling and dissapointing that I’m kinda pissed off at them now about it.Even the crappiest of mid-range phones have FFC these days. Whether people use it or not is irrelevant…it is a pretty much an standard expected feature these days.I hope Nokia does well to promote and sell WP7 but my upgrade from my Optimus 7 will not be a Nokia now.
WOW Nokia…that was a really dissapointing move! Just WOW!
http://www.gamerelatedblog.com/ StriderNo9

I would like a FFC but I don’t really need it. What I wanted was at least 32GBs of space, I will live though. I do like the phone a lot and hope that this is just a hint of whats to come from Nokia. I hope these aren’t the only phones we hear about for the next year.
Sam Ferguson

Dammit the best sounding phone and it’s not even a reality (Ace). This is a gorgeous looking phone but it’s just a little underwhelming spec wise. Seems like you’re buying the phone solely for looks because clearly there are better WP’s out there.
Anonymous

I think, what we are forgetting is that 800 the first Windows Phone for Nokia. It is the best for the company at the moment, but it is not supposed to be the high-end Nokia phone. Based on the rumours, the true high-end Nokia is coming Q1 2012, which personally makes me really excited about Nokia’s direction. I hope to see 800 on sale in N. America shortly.
Anonymous

I couldn’t care less about all you whiny babies complaints!

FFC – don’t need it, it’s a gimmick. iPhone users don’t user FaceTime.
NFC – pretty useless until 2014 probably
64GB storage – that’s why I’m gonna have Zune Pass, my music library + 16 million songs can’t fit on 64GB!

This is the phone I’m getting!

Guest

Sybil, yesterday you were giving up on WP7 and buying the 4S.

I really recommend upping whatever medication you’re on. Clearly, it’s not working at the current dosage.

Anonymous

Admittedly this helps those Best Buy salesman steer customers towards the HTC Titan or iPhone or Android. “pssst you really want want one with the FFC”…
Flying Madden

i think small storage is a strategy from Microsoft towards pushing people to using cloud based storage. better connection better experience so more bandwidth means selecting more expensive data plans, making mobile phone carriers happier. I believe that both carriers and manufacturers want always connected devices.

Anonymous

i don’t see any use of cloud considering if you have a limited data plan, eventually noone will have unlimited. That is the bullshit thing ever to do from MS.

Anonymous

This is bullshit, taking a year to copy and paste N9 and still screw with the lack of FFC, putting more weight on it, bad positioning of the capacitive button. I had doubt from the beginning and it came true. The beautiful look is doomed by so many stupid mistakes on Nokia 800. The excuse of reducing the screen size to accomodate the button is baseless since there is almost half inch of the gorilla glass wasted on the bottom. Instead, it looks a bit ugly looking at how badly capacitive buttons are placed. They don’t realize that one of the consistent problem about the capacitive button was hitting it accidently while surfing web or playing game. I really hate the designer os Nokia 800. Nokia 710 is eligilbe to be in the garbage otherwise they should be selling it for free with a contract (no work by Nokia on this phone). So, there is nothing to be proud of it, except the copied look from N9, no superior spec, no FFC, heaviest among the latest smartphones produced (even N9 is lighter), ugly placement of the capacitive button, smaller screen size, what else. So, I don’t want this 800 to come to US.
http://twitter.com/abhi1manyu Abhimanyu Jamwal

@tom yes we all know, you use titan and you love it and it has a front facing camera too
Anonymous

Seems a little rushed to me. Why no front facing camera?
http://www.gamerelatedblog.com/ StriderNo9

Any word on if these phones can be imported and used with AT&T at 3G speed?
http://twitter.com/mdtauk martin anderson

3.7 inch screen is a tough sell for me, my Omnia 7 has 4, and I was hoping for a 4.3 Nokia phone with AMOLED
Anonymous

The worst thing is it’s 10-26-2011 and you can’t buy an HTC Titan or Nokia Lumia in the United States. Not only that but the Galaxy Nexus isn’t coming until November. Once again Apple has ‘em all beat with immediate availability of the iPhone 4S.

Collins

Import the Nokia Lumia from the UK. Simple as that

http://twitter.com/hchooley Matt Baldwin

For those of us in the US who knows what the phone will be when it comes here. Could have better specs, though I think these specs are good enough.
Battle Geek

Although they forgot a camera overall its still a very good handset. It was important that Nokia and microsoft put something out there for christmas.
http://www.gadgetrophy.com/2011/10/ultimate-smartphones-for-christmas-2011.html
Its the first one they have done and Nokia has a massive range of smartphones over 100 and sells over 300 million units yearly. (thinks) ..If they update at least 20 lines …means ..Nokia and microsoft will be chucking out mango phones every month? in 2012.
Anonymous

HTC Titan is better then this.
http://www.tabletbestprice.net Tablet

first off lets get to the basics, this is not a phone. the n800 is a
internet device, which can do almost anything a desktop can, however
there are limits on this little babe. NO need to worry about viruses,
well linux applications can only be installed on this, this means you
cant just install firefox from the web like you do on your desktop.
every application you need is there. I had this tablet for a year and
half now, I never get bored with it. streamtuner application lets you
stream and record music, variety of emulators like gameboy, gameboy
advance. gamegear, nintendo, and super nintendo, media player, youtube
application save and download them, google voice application, and the
list goes on. people always mistake the n800 for a phone, its not, but
you can make calls with wifi though. this is definitely better than a
ipod touch, well that is what I think. sound quality on this is amazing,
the speakers are very loud and clear. the ipod touch can only be used
to listen to music with head phones the n800 can do both. sorry for the
comparison I just cant help it. But I can go on forever describing this
device, if you are looking for a good internet portable browser this is
for you.

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