Microsoft’s U.S. smartphone share drops 25% since Windows Phone 7 launch

By Tom Warren, on 3rd Jun 11 3:22 pm with 85 Comments

The latest figures from comScore show that Microsoft’s U.S. smartphone market share has dropped again in April.

The figures, released by comScore on Friday, confirm that Microsoft’s market share has dropped by 25% since devices went on sale in the U.S. during November 2010. Microsoft originally had a 9% market share in November 2010, comScore’s latest figures suggest this is now just 6.7%, a drop of over two percentage points or 25%.

The figures might paint a bad picture but Microsoft is banking on Nokia to help it generate significant interest during 2012. IDC predicts Windows Phone 7 will account for over 20% market share, above iOS’s 15% in 2015. The prediction is based on the significant implications of the recent Nokia and Microsoft deal. Nokia believes it will ship a Windows Phone in the fourth quarter of 2011.

Microsoft’s developer story is strong however. The software giant recently passed 20,000 applications and is expected to hit around 40,000 apps in October. Windows Phone 7 launched on October 26 with 1,000 applications available. Six months later and the platform has increased impressively. Microsoft appears to be building up a good momentum amongst application developers. Microsoft says it now has over 32,000 Windows Phone application developers, who deliver an average of 100 new apps per day.

Despite delays with its first platform update, “NoDo”, developers have a lot to look forward to this year. Microsoft’s new Nokia partnership is a great opportunity for new and existing developers as more and more consumers take advantage of Windows Phone. “Mango”, the codename for what will likely be named Windows Phone 7.5, is currently in the final development stages at Microsoft. The software giant revealed a number of new enhancements recently and promised over 500 features at launch. Nokia has also promised a batch of Windows Phone Mango devices, due later this year.

Microsoft U.S. smartphone market share - comScore

  • http://www.andrewtechhelp.com/ Andrew Tech Help

    Who’s exactly surprised? I wonder if you looked at the transition period between Mac OS 9 and Mac OS X if it had a similar dip that Windows Phone is currently experiencing?

    • Guest

      No sales went up for them 

    • Guest

      No sales went up for them 

  • Anonymous

    I think long term, WP7 is going to be strong.  When people start using Windows 8 and start loving the UI, they’re going to realize the awesomensss of WP7.

    • Test1ngi23

      MS: You’re going to use our new UI and you’re going to like it!

    • Guest

      What part of it being your choice did you miss?

    • Test1ngi23

      I didn’t miss any part of it. I just thought it was funny how he worded it. ;)

    • Test1ngi23

      I didn’t miss any part of it. I just thought it was funny how he worded it. ;)

  • Anonymous

    Can we PLEEEASE get some phones with killer specs.  A phone that has just about every feature you can cram into it.  I’ve played around with some WP7 phones, and the OS is absolutely killer… but the phones are lacking, and I’m not someone who buys a new phone every 6 months, so I’ll spend the money on a big dollar phone.  I’m not taking the leap until there’s something worth buying… but from the looks of the numbers, I don’t know if I’ll ever get the chance.

    • http://twitter.com/oolong2 oolong2

      Exactly…  We have to wait until Mango/Nokia to get some unique hardware. 

      Some people don’t buy based oin just the OS.  It’s about the device, carrier, 4G/4G LTE.   Even a lay person would notice things dual core vs single core when it’s listed on a product sheet.

      When it comes to iPhones people don’t care about specs, even I have no idea what the specs are on iPhones….   However with other phones people are paying attention and shopping around.

    • Anonymous

      WP7 still runs most everything faster than those phones with betters specs!  The only things I want on my WP7 device is a better image sensor, a battery that isn’t NERFED from the beginning and Super AMOLED + standard on all phones.

  • Anonymous

    Can we PLEEEASE get some phones with killer specs.  A phone that has just about every feature you can cram into it.  I’ve played around with some WP7 phones, and the OS is absolutely killer… but the phones are lacking, and I’m not someone who buys a new phone every 6 months, so I’ll spend the money on a big dollar phone.  I’m not taking the leap until there’s something worth buying… but from the looks of the numbers, I don’t know if I’ll ever get the chance.

  • someoneinwa

    It’s hard to sell stuff that you don’t market. Step it up Microsoft, it’s a great product.

    • GP007

      They’re going to push it with Mango for sure, cuz now with all those features they can be agressive and not worry about the others attacking them for lack of features.   One of the reasons the Droid sold so good is the smart motorola marketing “droid does”  Which ran down a list of features the droid could do that the iPhone couldn’t, and people took note.

      Now with Mango, there’s basically nothing that the other phones can do that Mango probably will bring to WP as well.  Then MS can go full on with advertising.

    • HeatherL

      I am afraid MS will come out with Mango in 3 months and will catch up to OSi4 about the time OSi5 is release and leaves WP7 playing catch up again ;(  Damn Apple at being so far ahead, I wish they take a couple of years off and give MS a chance.  

    • http://twitter.com/RenzoDev Renzo

      Apple far ahead, have you even used iOS? I did, looks the same it did back in 2007.

    • BoiB

      And when you making half of the industry’s profits and selling about as many phone as you can make why would you change?   

  • http://twitter.com/efjay01 Ef Jay

    Reps in stores are actively sabotaging WP7 sales, a colleague who just got a Trophy said the rep tried to tell him WP7 was hard to use! Lets be honest, they ALL hate Microsoft, untill MS recognises that and takes steps to combat it WP7 sales will suffer, no matter what specs the devices have.

    • GP007

      Which is why MS is opening more and more retail stores on it’s own, and plus the online stores etc.   I don’t get why a rep cares what the customer wants, they’re going to spend money so why do you care if they’re buying something you don’t like personally?   It’s total stupidity.

      The more people who buy WP7 devices, now that verizon finally has one and the more people they talk to who like it as well and in turn do the same will help things.  MS isn’t going to give up just because early first gen sales are weak.

      Besides, why isn’t anyone talking about RIM?  Look at their use slide.  Going from 30% to 25% numbers wise is a huge differenst compared to 9% to 6.7%

    • http://twitter.com/fancyFeast133 Steve Dobs

      Yup, I don’t have a smartphone but I went to a sprint store just to *try* a wp7 and (1) the windows phone was not out (2) the rep had to throw his 2 cents in that he ‘didn’t like it anyway’. Dude I don’t care what you think, I’m here to try it not get an android fanboy’s worthless opinion.

    • Anonymous

      Spot on dude, that happen to me when i bought my WP7 early this year. They tried to sell me a myTouch 4G but i knew i wanted my WP7 phone. This is something that will keep affecting sales until it’s taken care of. But surprisingly you can see the reviews of WP7 phones on the wireless provider and the reviews ratings are high. So people love these phones and more onced the used it for a little while. I

    • Joaovinagre

      that happened to me in Europe too!

    • http://twitter.com/JLancaster3 J Lancaster

      For real!  this happened to me also at an At&t store.  I was playing with the focus and rep came and asked me “Do you know anything about this phone?”  I was kind of shocked, but I had to explain the features. When I went in to buy one, they said “are you here to buy a iPhone?”  it’s really bizarre.  “We don’t want you to buy this, buy this instead”   I understand, I talked my wife out of buying a Mac.  It was a price for features thing.  But these phones cost the same, and you can’t push your preference on to someone else.

    • http://twitter.com/JLancaster3 J Lancaster

      I think sales reps something feel that the shopper comes in looking for their opinion.  Which most people are. But they say “which would you recommend?”  Not “I’m interested in this windows phone can you tell me something about it?”  The later doesn’t require the sales rep to give opinion. 

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001666677104 Chris Malone

      You should’ve let your wife have a Mac if she wanted, even if you like Windows. If she feels like spending her money on it, why not? Not everyone needs i7, 16GB RAM, 2TB HDD, etc. I built a PC with similar specs to that and even playing games didn’t even use 40% of it’s power. Some people just don’t need that much power. Or maybe you and her could build a Hackintosh. That way she has the OS she wants and you get the powerhouse you want. Just food for thought.

    • http://twitter.com/dopsel dopsel

      Had the same in Belgium here in a store called The Phone House.
      They were talking about windows MOBILE. The first thing she said was “we had lots of complaints about these phones, we recommend you Android”. I corrected the nice looking lady and said that we wanted a second windows PHONE. (It was clear that she didn’t know what windows Phone actually was).

      If it was just a regular customer who was looking for a smartphone, they would have come back at home with an android.

      She could not even give me extra information about Windows Phones.

      I was shocked really by the way they just didn’t give a fuck. The Phone House should give some extra information (or fire some people).

      Sad to see that companies do such things.. :(

    • Anonymous

      I agree with this but I think it’s started from the top. All of the phone carriers are in love with Android because they can put their crapware on it in a more pervasive way than on WP7 or iOS.

      Frankly, I’ve used them all and WP7 is by far the easiest.  After showing it to Android users and iPhone users alike everyone has agreed that WP7 is smoother, sleeker design that’s easier to pick up and use.  It doesn’t have a ton of games but XBOX Live should help out.

      I think another problem was VZW and CDMA in this country.  If Microsoft would have invested extra resources into CDMA and released WP7 during the holiday they would have been much more successful.  Allowing Apple to release iPhone 4 on VZW before WP7 was a disaster.

      The numbers should be much better for May/June though as the Trophy was largely sold out of some markets.  The demand has been there.  No one was selling Windows Mobile devices during the WP7 change over and WP7 isn’t even officially 1 year old on the market.  Give it some time and this number will bounce back.

    • Anonymous

      I agree with this but I think it’s started from the top. All of the phone carriers are in love with Android because they can put their crapware on it in a more pervasive way than on WP7 or iOS.

      Frankly, I’ve used them all and WP7 is by far the easiest.  After showing it to Android users and iPhone users alike everyone has agreed that WP7 is smoother, sleeker design that’s easier to pick up and use.  It doesn’t have a ton of games but XBOX Live should help out.

      I think another problem was VZW and CDMA in this country.  If Microsoft would have invested extra resources into CDMA and released WP7 during the holiday they would have been much more successful.  Allowing Apple to release iPhone 4 on VZW before WP7 was a disaster.

      The numbers should be much better for May/June though as the Trophy was largely sold out of some markets.  The demand has been there.  No one was selling Windows Mobile devices during the WP7 change over and WP7 isn’t even officially 1 year old on the market.  Give it some time and this number will bounce back.

    • Anonymous

      I agree with this but I think it’s started from the top. All of the phone carriers are in love with Android because they can put their crapware on it in a more pervasive way than on WP7 or iOS.

      Frankly, I’ve used them all and WP7 is by far the easiest.  After showing it to Android users and iPhone users alike everyone has agreed that WP7 is smoother, sleeker design that’s easier to pick up and use.  It doesn’t have a ton of games but XBOX Live should help out.

      I think another problem was VZW and CDMA in this country.  If Microsoft would have invested extra resources into CDMA and released WP7 during the holiday they would have been much more successful.  Allowing Apple to release iPhone 4 on VZW before WP7 was a disaster.

      The numbers should be much better for May/June though as the Trophy was largely sold out of some markets.  The demand has been there.  No one was selling Windows Mobile devices during the WP7 change over and WP7 isn’t even officially 1 year old on the market.  Give it some time and this number will bounce back.

    • Anonymous

      I agree with this but I think it’s started from the top. All of the phone carriers are in love with Android because they can put their crapware on it in a more pervasive way than on WP7 or iOS.

      Frankly, I’ve used them all and WP7 is by far the easiest.  After showing it to Android users and iPhone users alike everyone has agreed that WP7 is smoother, sleeker design that’s easier to pick up and use.  It doesn’t have a ton of games but XBOX Live should help out.

      I think another problem was VZW and CDMA in this country.  If Microsoft would have invested extra resources into CDMA and released WP7 during the holiday they would have been much more successful.  Allowing Apple to release iPhone 4 on VZW before WP7 was a disaster.

      The numbers should be much better for May/June though as the Trophy was largely sold out of some markets.  The demand has been there.  No one was selling Windows Mobile devices during the WP7 change over and WP7 isn’t even officially 1 year old on the market.  Give it some time and this number will bounce back.

    • Anonymous

      I agree with this but I think it’s started from the top. All of the phone carriers are in love with Android because they can put their crapware on it in a more pervasive way than on WP7 or iOS.

      Frankly, I’ve used them all and WP7 is by far the easiest.  After showing it to Android users and iPhone users alike everyone has agreed that WP7 is smoother, sleeker design that’s easier to pick up and use.  It doesn’t have a ton of games but XBOX Live should help out.

      I think another problem was VZW and CDMA in this country.  If Microsoft would have invested extra resources into CDMA and released WP7 during the holiday they would have been much more successful.  Allowing Apple to release iPhone 4 on VZW before WP7 was a disaster.

      The numbers should be much better for May/June though as the Trophy was largely sold out of some markets.  The demand has been there.  No one was selling Windows Mobile devices during the WP7 change over and WP7 isn’t even officially 1 year old on the market.  Give it some time and this number will bounce back.

    • Shiro

      A lot of stores like Target and Walmart do not even carry Win7 phones.  I think this is a form of sabotage by retailers too. 

    • Guest

      The majority of the stores don’t even mention the phone’s themselves even exist (when you ask about the different kinds of phones they have).
      Your choices:
      - iPhone
      - Andriod
      - Symbian

      This is the case for virtually all stores, except the Telstra store in Australia, who is aiming these phones at business.

    • zzz

      Wait until Mango, Wait until Mango, Wait until Mango… isn’t that how the mantra goes?  Or is it Wait until Nokia, Wait  until Nokia, Wait until Nokia…? Is is possible, just possible people are smart enough to make their own choices and they simple rather not buy a WP7?

      Do not blame anyone but MS for coming out with a good OS 3 years to late.

    • MaryT

      correct good OS, too late with bad marketing… typical MS

    • zzz

      Wait until Mango, Wait until Mango, Wait until Mango… isn’t that how the mantra goes?  Or is it Wait until Nokia, Wait  until Nokia, Wait until Nokia…? Is is possible, just possible people are smart enough to make their own choices and they simple rather not buy a WP7?

      Do not blame anyone but MS for coming out with a good OS 3 years to late.

    • Jeni G

      I purchased a HTC Arrive, and it was ok but the all of my friend made fun of me for buying a lame phone.  After using it for a while, I now understand why they made fun of me.  Hopefully I can get my idiot sister to take it.  

    • Red

      Similar experience in an O2 shop in Germany.
      I went in there with my Omnia7 because i had trouble with their prepaid internet. So there was this girl – like 16 years old and what I would call the typical iPhone user. I gave her my phone and she was all like “how do i get to the messages? what is this? How does the contact list work?” and my only thought was “Don’t they train their shop assistants?” So this other assistant comes along, takes a glance at the phone and says “Oh, one of these new Windows MOBILE phones”.
      I took my phone and left the store…

    • zzz

      This is going from bad to worst… Carries not interested in selling WP7, Customers are not buy it, Hardware Companies not making many, and it’s last great hope Nokia has lost it’s competitive advantage and if they even are still in business we mane one or two models by 2012.   

      Kin all over again I afraid 

  • iWanyMyWP7

    Well.  Now that WP7 is on VZW and Sprint as well … it should help.  I’m even converting iPhone users to WP7.  That’s how good WP7 is!

  • iWanyMyWP7

    Well.  Now that WP7 is on VZW and Sprint as well … it should help.  I’m even converting iPhone users to WP7.  That’s how good WP7 is!

  • Animecr

    They deenphatized so much Silverlight ( the dev tool for Windows Phone ) that the phone have suffered abandon from developers and customers too. Microsoft PR and marketing SUCKS A LOT. FIRE EVERYONE and hire new motivated people 

    • GP007

      No they haven’t, WP7 will get full SL4 in the Mango update and all the new APIs that come with it etc.  If anything they’ve pushed SL and XNA even more, even letting devs use both together in the same app/game.    Not to mention the newest beta dev tools with Mango support has some very very good features that help devs like support for GPS and acceleromiter/gyroscope in the emulator.

  • Animecr

    They deenphatized so much Silverlight ( the dev tool for Windows Phone ) that the phone have suffered abandon from developers and customers too. Microsoft PR and marketing SUCKS A LOT. FIRE EVERYONE and hire new motivated people 

  • Anonymous

    Personally, moving to WP7 was painful for me – buying all new apps, learning an all new UI and digesting an all new consumery focus in the platform challenged my loyalty to the platform.  I’m sure that a lot of would-be upgraders were pushed back by it all – and now we have the numbers to prove it.

    • Anonymous

      was learning WP7 really that rough for you? My brother had a hard time with it. I told him I’d come over and help him out.  Three hours later he calls me up and tells me he’s got it.  He’s even shown me some things I’ve missed.

      1. Swipe to the left to find extra settings
      2. Look for the 3 dots for menu options
      3. ???
      4. Profit

    • zzz

      Exactly, it is no longer just buying a new phone, it is investing in a whole new ecosystem a sadly Android and iPhone is so much farther ahead.  

  • GP007

    WP aside, what i’ve been saying for months is looking true, RIM is the next Palm unless they do something else, maybe MS can strike a deal with RIM like it did with Nokia?  Who knows, hell Palm made a Windows Mobile device out of nowhere too remember?  It’s not like this hasn’t happened before, time for a Blackberry with WP7.5?

    • Anonymous

      i highly doubt that.

    • GP007

      I bet you also never expected Bing to be come the default search provider on Blackberries either did you?  But hey, that happend last month.  

    • StockBroker

      Like blackberry is going to be around in 12 months…. Big Deal like every other success MS has had they bought there way into it.

    • Guest

      How did they buy their way into Exchange’s success? Sharepoint’s?

    • Mark

      Well, remaining proprietary and trying to keep up with the software development capabilities of Google, Apple, or even MS, isn’t much of a plan. So what are their options? Basically Android or WP7. Going Android is the obvious choice from a market perspective, but brings with it other issues (differentiation against cheap rivals, legal exposure, etc.). They’re in a very tough position.

    • Guest

      RIM is the next Palm and Nokia is the next RIM and WP7 is the next Nokia ;(

  • Anonymous

    I hope the OP realizes that the “Windows Phone” Share includes both Windows Mobile devices And Windows Phone 7. Since Windows Mobile devices are all but gone from the marketplace (save a few Touch Pro 2′s that still have good use), it will continue to drop until the WP7 market starts to ramp up.

    I agree that many of the salespeople still hawk Android over WP7 just because its familiar, but it does make me laugh when the device they are showing off next to a WP7 phone, locks up mid presentation. What I don’t get is the person still buys it after the failed attempt. When they look at WP7 they flick over it a second or two, press a few tiles but never really try it out for any period of time. Not only in presentation but a lot of the android phone owners were coming in asking for replacements, or had issues that rendered the phone practically useless. I have yet to have any critical failure of usability with my Arrive, I can see the Samsung WP7 issues being pretty serious, but it is still a much less common issue and is pretty much the only one I have heard about in numbers. 

    The people I have seen looking seriously/getting the phone are people informed, truly curious, sick and tired of working to make the phone “Custom” or just “Work”. 

    I think Microsoft should step up the visibility of the Microsoft Retail Edge program and also incorporate a way to have the Retail sales guy track his sales of WP7 devices and the Retail Edge can have special prizes or rewards for selling the phones (say sell 10 phones, get an Xbox Game or 800MS Points, sell 50 get a 250G Xbox360, etc). It may make a little more incentive to switch these guys over. 

    • Anonymous

      If you’re there ask the reps to reboot both devices and see which ones faster.  Have them load the camera and see which ones faster. Have them post/share to social networking and see which ones faster and then, for kicks, have them pit a dual core processor against the single core WP7 and see who performs better using HTML5…

      lol WP7 is THE premier mobile OS at the moment and with Mango I don’t see as anyone else has a hope of catching up.

    • Anonymous

      IM0001 this is something Microsoft has but I don’t know if they promote it.  I tried to become a member once because if you answered questions about the phone in their “tests” section you’d get points to earn a free Xbox 360.  I don’t know if it’s still the same but it appears to be something close to the idea you detail at the end of your post:

      http://expertzone.microsoft.com/welcome.aspx?ezru=%2fdefault.aspx

      btw, One would think your idea would be a no-brainer for a company w/ millions to spend on marketing promotions.

  • http://www.seriousinternets.com Tim Smith

    It’s going to drop more as people abandon windows mobile for other OS’s and a lot of them won’t go to Windows Phone yet. I would bet a large part of them are Verizon users who got tired of waiting for the Trophy. But as Mango comes out and into next year as people start to reach the end of their contracts it’ll start going back up. 

  • http://www.seriousinternets.com Tim Smith

    It’s going to drop more as people abandon windows mobile for other OS’s and a lot of them won’t go to Windows Phone yet. I would bet a large part of them are Verizon users who got tired of waiting for the Trophy. But as Mango comes out and into next year as people start to reach the end of their contracts it’ll start going back up. 

    • Anonymous

      VZW sabatoged Microsoft and Microsoft allowed them to by 1. Not forcing VZW to sell the Kin as a feature phone from the beginning (they did after about 5 months of dismal sales) 2. Not having a CDMA version of WP7 at launch.

    • Guest

      Your blaming VZW for KIN?????????????   LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      What now blame Best Buy for Zune’s failure?  LOL

    • Anonymous

      I am because those of us that read news instead of trolling as anons
      know that VZW sold out of the KIN and ordered more once they wisely put
      it on a feature phone plan like Microsoft originally lobbied for. But
      you didn’t know VZW was a greedy dick concerning data when the kin
      first released did you? The end of last year it (KIN2) was their
      hottest feature phone for the teen demographic. Troll From: Disqus
      Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 3:57 PM
      To: mark@avozen.net
      Subject: [winrumors] Re: Microsoft’s U.S. smartphone share drops 25%
      since Windows Phone 7 launch
      Guest (unregistered) wrote, in response to markavo:

      Your blaming VZW for KIN?????????????   LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      What now blame Best Buy for Zune’s failure?  LOL

      Link to comment: http://disq.us/25bve7

    • MSblog

      Constantly backing up high-resolution photos and even standard-definition videos to the cloud required a lot of bandwidth, making it difficult for Verizon to justify a “light” data usage plan for Kin users.

    • Guest

      How come MS failures is never MS fault, Ballmer even has the fanboys saying the company line.

    • ToniB

      I am starting to see that too!

    • BT Hill

      “The end of last year it (KIN2) was their hottest feature phone for the teen demographic.”   LOL that is like saying it was the thinnest kid at fat camp!!!!!!!!!!!   The demographic was buying smart phones, don’t not talk about what you know nothing much about.   

  • Anonymous

    It will all take time in the end. You do have a lot of people within their 2 year lockdown that may want a WP7 but have to wait till their contract ends to make it worth it, and you also have a lot to look forward to with Mango. New features, devices, etc. 

    It is a difficult time to introduce an entirely new phone platform to market, but it is possible and given time, I believe it will be a WP7/Android/iOS market with a little webOS and RIM left on the end. Having a “Big 3″ will keep competition, innovation, and choice going. 

  • http://twitter.com/abhi1manyu Abhimanyu Jamwal

    Well if you tell the buyers that “Mango” is better and new devices will come pre-loaded with Mango, untill than you can use 6 month old hardware and OS, who in the right mind is idiot enough to buy one? Unless we are talking about “Apple fanboys”, I dont see the sales picking up anytime soon and not even after “Mango” is relased. My only hope, developers releases apps for present users and Microsoft support the small group of users like me

    • zzz

      Good point 

  • Test1ngi23

    Spin it Winrumors! Spin it!

    • GP007

      Don’t you have some malware to go remove from your droid or something? 

    • Test1ngi23

      Hate to burst your bubble, but no, i don’t. Occurrences of malware on Android are about as numerous as the number of WP7 devices. LOL

    • Guest

      millions? That sucks then.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001666677104 Chris Malone

      Don’t you have some malware to go remove from your PC or something?

  • Test1ngi23

    Spin it Winrumors! Spin it!

  • Shiro

    Considering that Sprint customers cannot get a Win7 phone, I consider these stats questionable. Isn’t Sprint still considered a major carrier??

    • Just Visiting

      Sprint has a WP7 model, the HTC Arrive, but they did not get it until late March 2011.

    • Shiro

      I did not see Sprint even advertising a WIn7 phone until a month ago. I don’t see how any could have gotten it when you couldn’t even place an order through Sprint’s web site.

  • zzz

    No the quarter after OSX release saw a 34 percent growth over the year-ago quarter and exceeding the previous quarterly record for Mac. Simply WP7 appears to be another Kin, or Vista, or Zune or …

  • http://www.phonetipsandtricks.com PhoneTips

    Now that Microsoft has announced Windows 8 and it runs across browsers AND tablets, i’m worried that they’ll just throw the kitchen sink in with the OS meaning the OS will be massively bloated. It makes me wonder whether this will carry across to their phone operating systems too. Microsoft has such a bad reputation for bloatware, I think it worries a lot of people. Who wants their phones to slowly slow down over time as apps are installed, like with Windows?

  • Oshalabi9

    Google and Apple made advances at the expense of rim, ms, and palm. The one constant here is the fact that the latter three have not introduced a true flagship phone to compete with Apple. Android on the other hand is being handled as the premier os by hardware oem’s. If I wasn’t a wp7 fan I would have quit a little bit back. The delay of a CDMA version, the delay with carriers Microsoft should have done a better job of being able to control the updates. No new phones coming out until mango. Its hard to see purpose of such an ecosystem if you don’t have momentum. I personally waited until the arrive and I really like my phone. When I had a droid I spent a lot of time customizing the screen , updating roms now I find myself spending more time looking up apps, reading feeds, playing xbox, if it had a little bigger screen and a front facing camera with skype I would not change it.

  • Adam askew

    I was buying the HD7 today from an O2 store and the rep was inisisting I get a different phone as “every single HD7 he has sold has came back broken” and “this was the same with practicaly all widow 7 phones”

    No idea how they are allowed to get away with lying like that.

  • Adam askew

    I was buying the HD7 today from an O2 store and the rep was inisisting I get a different phone as “every single HD7 he has sold has came back broken” and “this was the same with practicaly all widow 7 phones”

    No idea how they are allowed to get away with lying like that.

  • Guest

    It is June 17 and I still have not gotten the NoDo update (samsung focus).  Lots of other users are seeing the same issue, apparently it has something to do with hardware used in this model.  Forget about mango, when can I get NoDo?!?

  • Guest

    It is June 17 and I still have not gotten the NoDo update (samsung focus).  Lots of other users are seeing the same issue, apparently it has something to do with hardware used in this model.  Forget about mango, when can I get NoDo?!?