Review: Nokia Lumia 800 Windows Phone

By Tom Warren, on 3rd Nov 11 5:41 pm with 94 Comments

Nokia Lumia 800

Nokia’s new Lumia 800 is the company’s first entry into Microsoft’s mobile land. The highly anticipated handset is the flagship Nokia Windows Phone and will carry the company over the crucial holiday season. Nokia has backed the handset up with a multi-million pound advertising campaign, featuring adverts across the web, newspapers, TV and billboards. Nokia has also invested in important in-store advertising to help get the Lumia 800 into the hands of consumers. The Lumia 800 lacks some of Microsoft’s new Windows Phone 7.5 features but does this matter? Read on to find out.

Hardware

Nokia’s hardware has been an important part of its success over the years. Sturdy, reliable, well built mobile phones were the main feature of Nokia’s offerings throughout the 90s and 00s. The company lost its way in the smartphone market recently thanks to increased competition from Apple’s iPhone devices and Google’s Android operating system. Nokia attempted to fight back with a range of beautifully crafted devices but most failed to impress due to the lackluster Symbian operating system. The company teamed up with Microsoft earlier this year to use Windows Phone on its upcoming smartphone handsets. The rest, as they say, is history.

The Nokia Lumia 800 borrows its design ques from the company’s Nokia N9 device. On looks, the devices are nearly identical. On paper, they differ in a number of ways. The Lumia 800 features a 3.7-inch AMOLED clear black curved glass display. The result is a stunning screen that works well under direct sunlight thanks to the way the curved display reflects light. Nokia’s Lumia 800 features a single-piece polycarbonate body which has its advantages and disadvantages. The device feels extremely solid and the display and body do not flex at all, meaning there’s no annoying creaky sounds or opportunities for dust to gather around the display or device. The disadvantage to the tightly sealed body is the battery is not removable, this may anger some but in a modern day smartphone it’s not a biggie or a surprise.

Nokia Lumia 800 in red

The Lumia 800 feels great in the hand thanks to the curved body and silky smooth finish. However, the flat bottom means the edges at the base of the device can come across as a little sharp in the hand. It’s something you get used to and it’s not a big area of concern. The flat bottom has its advantages too, the device can stand up straight on a desk without assistance. Handy for office workers who typically glance at their phones during the day. Nokia’s button placement follows a similar placement on its N9 device. The power, volume and camera buttons are all on the right hand side of the device meaning the left and bottom of the Lumia 800 are clear of any features. The side placement of the power button is particularly useful during one handed operation of the Lumia 800. The top of the device features a micro-SIM slot and micro-USB port. The USB port is accessible with a push action that reveals a hinged compartment. The plastic micro-USB cover snaps into place but users will need to be careful not to bend it back too far as it’s thin and could easily break away. The micro-SIM slot is housed in the same compartment. The base of the device features a speaker that outputs all audio content from the handset. Nokia’s Lumia 800 box includes a stereo headset, fast USB charger and a soft rubber cover that matches the color of the device.

Nokia’s hardware lacks some of the new Windows Phone 7.5 features that Microsoft has introduced with its latest update. The Lumia 800 does not feature a forward facing camera, Internet Sharing or a gyroscope. Nokia is planning to address the Internet Sharing feature with a software update shortly but the missing gyroscope and forward facing camera will not be made available until other Nokia Windows Phones hit the market next year. The lack of forward facing camera may disappoint some but Microsoft and its application developers have failed to provide any real applications that make use of the support so far. Microsoft will ship its Skype Windows Phone application shortly and this is expected to include video conferencing support. The Tango video calling application will also be made available soon too. Equally, there’s not a huge amount of apps that take advantage of the gyroscope support in Windows Phone 7.5.

Nokia Lumia 800 in black

Unique Nokia Windows Phone features

Nokia ships its Music and Drive applications as part of the Nokia Lumia 800. The impressive pair of apps will not be made available to any other Windows Phone handset. Nokia is also shipping its Maps application in the Windows Phone Marketplace, making it available to all Windows Phone devices.

Nokia Drive

Nokia Drive

Nokia Drive is the company’s 3D satellite navigation system. The application is preloaded on the Home Screen of the Lumia 800. The app works across 95 countries and maps can be easily downloaded and stored on the device. The default map included will vary by market and is relative to the country where the Lumia 800 is purchased. Nokia Drive includes 2D and 3D maps of cities and is designed for car use in mind. I used Drive several times during my use of the Lumia 800 and it quickly became a useful application that other Windows Phones lack. Nokia’s Drive app is basic but it does what it says on the tin. The application also features a range of voices so you can pick between different languages and male and female variants. Nokia has also included 69 million places of interest within the service.

Nokia Drive does not use a data connection to load the map parts of its application but will require a connection to navigate to destinations. We tested Drive in the car and with flight mode enabled (see video below) and the app fails to load without a data connection. Nokia uses the data connection to locate destination addresses and points of interest. Nokia’s choice of implementation means that Nokia Drive is a hybrid between full satellite navigation and mapping services that require data. The app will let you load on maps for when you travel abroad but with the requirement for data to locate destinations, it makes it less useful for those planning to use it whilst they’re on holiday. Nokia Drive also doesn’t feature speed cameras or any indication of an estimated time of arrival. The app simply marks your destination on a map and provides voice guidance and driving speed.

Overall the Nokia Drive application is a great, if basic, addition to the Lumia 800 and one that’s included out of the box at no extra charge. Nokia is planning to update the application to add extra functionality and features so we expect to see some interesting improvements ahead.

Nokia Music

Nokia Music is another free out of the box application for the Lumia 800. Nokia Music uses a Wi-Fi or 3G data connection to connect and stream thousands of free music tracks. The application works as an internet radio app, similar to services such as last FM. Nokia Music users can pick between different categories of music and have a selection of music streamed to their devices within seconds. The categories of music include rock, pop and classical and a variety of other genres. The application provides bestseller versions of each category, new releases and mixes of particular decades. Like Nokia Drive, Nokia Music is a fairly basic offering. Users can’t pick their own music or create playlists and the application requires a data connection at all times. The selection of music is varied and it’s particularly useful for discovering new music. The app takes advantage of Microsoft’s Windows Phone 7.5 multitasking and background music features. You can listen to music whilst the device is in standby or using another application. Unlike Zune, album art will not be displayed on the lock screen but the controls to pause, skip and rewind all work.

Nokia Music users will also be able to purchase music from within the app using their Nokia Account. Prices are fairly similar to Microsoft’s Zune service and the MP3s will then be available to play across the device. Nokia Music also supports the ability to play existing Zune loaded music through its own interface. One of the downsides to the streaming service is a limit to the amount of track skipping allowed. If you skip too many songs you’re presented with a “You can’t skip any more songs for the moment,” message before you’re allowed to continue at the end of the current song.

Overall the Nokia Music application is an interesting addition to the platform and one that will allow users to discover new music. The application will not replace the Zune Music Pass or other streaming services such as Spotify but the fact it’s built in and does not require a subscription will appeal to a number of users.

Nokia Music

Nokia Maps

Unfortunately we were unable to demo Nokia Maps as the application is not yet available pre-launch. However, Nokia representatives demonstrated the application at Nokia World and it’s designed for general mapping use outside of car navigation. The feature works in a similar way to Microsoft’s Bing local scout. Users can search for local directions and Nokia provides smart routes for walking, driving and public transport. The app will also surface places to see, eat and highlights of local areas. The navigation works step-by-step, similar to Microsoft’s own mapping equivalent. Users can also review locations and share them across their social networks. Locations can be pinned to the Home Screen for quick access to regular places of interest. We’ll update this review once Nokia Maps is fully enabled.

Nokia Lumia 800 in green

Other improvements

Nokia also ships an App Highlights application as part of its Lumia 800 out of the box experience. The application acts as a companion to Microsoft’s Windows Phone Marketplace and includes featured applications and a Starter Kit. The Starter Kit is Nokia’s recommended application list for first time Windows Phone users. Apps like Facebook, AccuWeather and Angry Birds all feature on the Starter Kit section. The application also includes a notifications system that alerts users of application updates and new applications via its pinned Live Tile. A unique part of the app is a surprise me feature. Surprise Me allows users to shake their device and find apps at random from Nokia’s Highlights app. It’s a neat addition and a fun way to find apps randomly, rather like the equivalent of Nokia Music for apps.

Nokia has also considered the average phone user in its Lumia 800 device. The Finnish handset maker ships a Contacts Transfer application as part of the Lumia 800. The application allows users to transfer their contacts from an old device via Bluetooth. It’s a simple application but one that is key for ordinary users who might not have their contacts stored in online web accounts.

Camera

Nokia’s Lumia 800 features an 8-megapixel Carl Zeiss rear camera. The camera features a F2.2 lens, dual LED flash and 3x digital zoom. Nokia’s camera support is fairly basic with the Lumia 800. The camera allows users to change the white balance, exposure value, ISO, contrast, saturation, focus and metering modes. Nokia has opted to ship the Focus Mode set to Macro as default, optimized for close up images. The camera shoots 8-megapixel images, providing a 3264×2448 image. The image results are what you’d expect from a smartphone camera. Daylight images came out well in our tests and the dual-LED flash more than made up for the lack of light during nighttime snaps.

One of the disappointing aspects of the camera is the lack of face tracking, panorama shot and burst shot modes with the Lumia 800. HTC’s TITAN and Radar devices both feature these technologies and they greatly improve the experience of shooting a variety of pictures. Nokia’s Lumia 800 also captures HD 720p video and the output is what you’d expect from a smartphone. Nokia has also kept the auto focus features of its devices. A half press of the camera button will allow users to auto-focus in on objects in view. Microsoft’s own Windows Phone 7.5 improvements also allow users to tap to auto-focus and take a picture instead of using the dedicated hardware button. The zoom provides average quality images but like any digital zoom, it’s often better not to use it if possible.

The results of the Nokia Lumia 800 camera can be found below using default settings on the image side and 720p for video capture. We’ve also included some comparison shots between the HTC TITAN and Lumia 800. Click on them all to see the original image.

Nokia Lumia 800 sample

 

 

 

Performance and battery life

The performance of the Nokia Lumia 800 is zippy. Nokia has packed in a 1.4GHz Qualcomm MSM8255 processor alongside 512MB RAM. Windows Phone flys on the Lumia 800 and games perform very well. Despite the processor being slightly underclocked compared to the HTC TITAN, the performance is nearly identical. The TITAN also features a MSM8255 processor but HTC has clocked it at 1.5GHZ, likely due to the larger battery on the device. The processor in the Lumia 800 is single core but it handles tasks and Windows Phone beautifully. We tested a number of applications and games and the majority performed identical to a HTC TITAN.

Battery life is a key part of a modern day smartphone and the Nokia Lumia 800 does not disappoint. The Lumia 800 includes a 1450mAh battery, capable of a talk time of up to 9.5 hours (on 3G), standby of 335 hours and up to 55 hours of music playback and 7 hours of video. In our tests the battery life is nearly identical to the HTC TITAN. During an average days use the battery lasts just over a full day which is roughly the standard for a modern day smartphone. Microsoft has also included a battery life saver feature inside Windows Phone 7.5 that helps preserve battery life when the device reaches the low threshold. We ran the WP bench battery drain test and it took 3 hours and 10 mins to fully drain the battery at full stress. Comparitively, the HTC TITAN took 3 hours and 2 mins to fully drain the battery at full stress. Both devices were running at medium screen display during the tests.

WP Bench results, lower ms on CPU/Data tests better. Higher F/s on GPU tests better:

Nokia Lumia 800:

CPU – 14,791 ms
Data – 23,394 ms
GPU – 1208 frames, avg: 40 F/s

HTC TITAN:

CPU – 13,919 ms
Data – 20,469 ms
GPU – 1234 frames, avg: 41 F/s

HTC Radar:

CPU – 20,179 ms
Data – 22,357 ms
GPU – 1098 frames, avg: 36 F/s

Nokia Lumia vs HTC Radar and TITAN

Overview and conclusion

Overall the Nokia Lumia 800 is the best looking Windows Phone 7.5 smartphone on the market right now. The beautifully crafted design and super bright 3.7-inch display demonstrates Nokia’s impressive hardware coupled with Microsoft’s refreshing Windows Phone operating system. The device is super fast and moving between Microsoft’s various Windows Phone hubs is a breeze. If you’re a current Windows Phone user then you’ll notice this performance jump. The size of the device is the perfect fit to make it usable two handedly or just one. The curved display also makes it a great performer during daylight, making it easier to read text and see images during direct daylight, something that is often difficult on rival devices.

The Lumia 800 marks Nokia’s first entry into the Windows Phone market and it’s certainly a compelling one. Nokia is producing three colour variants of the Lumia 800 that will appeal to the masses. The vivid colours, unique applications and solid build quality are exactly what Nokia lovers expect from such a device. Backed by a fast processor and a capable 8-megapixel camera, the Lumia 800 is a must have Windows Phone this holiday season. Will it disappoint some Windows Phone fans? Maybe, but the Lumia 800 should not be passed by. If you want the best looking Windows Phone device right now, then there’s nothing better than the Nokia Lumia 800.

  • http://techin5.com Jubbin Grewal @Techin5.com

    Good review, I’ll be glad to see how it ranks when I get my model :)

  • Arcana112

    *Takes*out*credit*card*…..

  • Chris Ferrera

    This handet is so gorgeous. When these, or a similar device, come stateside it might be time to sell my iphone4s and bite into a mango.

    • AllenG

      The only problem with the handset is that the OS is WP7, if it was anything other then that it might sale in some volume

    • Anonymous

      Stop trolling and go to an apple or android page.

    • Dukefinster

      just the truth … wp7 is not what i am expecting from nokia …

    • Ayush Sharma84

      I switched from the I phone to the WP7.
      In my opinion the only edge that Iphone has over WP is the app store and the plethora of apps available on it.
      If you take that out of the equation – WP7 is better.
      As a consumer one should be open minded about technology and technological advances- the UI for WP7 is a lot better than anything out there coupled with a Hub Centric design for contacts makes it unique.

    • Madola

      Nokia N9?!

  • http://twitter.com/Nelus08 Jay

    I really like the look this phone. I agree its the best looking of the Windows phones so far and i think will sell the most out of them. While the Titan and Radar are very well made (as per usual for HTC) they have more of an industrial design about them. The Nokia looks a lot sexier in comparison. I still think they should have made it a 4″screen though

    • https://profiles.google.com/christopher.gull/ CG

      I hate this dilemma! I want to exchange my Omnia 7 for the Lumia 800, but I lose 0.3″ at the same time… anybody thinks this will matter a lot?

    • http://twitter.com/JayJayTG Jay Gilliham

      I had that same dilemma having a Omnia 7 but then I thought with Microsofts current restiction to 800×480 resolutions and the 0.3 reduction of the Lumia 800, that only means a higher pixel density (more quality sharp and detailed visuals :))

      Preordered my Lumia 800 ;)

    • https://profiles.google.com/christopher.gull/ CG

      Yes, true, the pixel density will be higher :) I’m more thinking of web browsing and typing on the screen, especially in portrait mode. I have quite large hands!

      Oh, I need to find monies for one!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D6WUPKQ2XQANZT4VXR3NWK32YY Sam

      Probably not a whole lot but I’m sure it’s going to be noticeable if you make the switch. Moving to a smaller screen is going to be a pain. But you’ll get used to it as it becomes your everyday phone. 

      I swear Nokia is lucky they built a sexy phone because really, that’s all it has going for it. Titan, and probably the Focus S, are better options (except for the look and feel). And yet, I’d still probably get the 800 if it were available here in the US. 

      I hope we get the “Ace” in January. 

    • http://twitter.com/Nelus08 Jay

      My guess is that it will be noticeable. Whether is enough to bother you is a personal choice :P

    • https://profiles.google.com/christopher.gull/ CG

      Well, that’s what I was wondering, if it’s bothersome.. I have never gone to a smaller screen before, but thought maybe someone else might have such an experience^^

    • http://www.facebook.com/michaelfarrell13 Michael Farrell

      I went from a 4.3 HD2 running windows phone 7 to a 3.8 LG Optimus 7.  You get used to it very quickly as the size suits the resolution much better.  I’m now going to go from a 3.8 to a 3.7 Nokia Lumia 800 :-D

      If you know anyone with an iPhone 4 check out the screen, its even smaller (3.5) with a higher resolution and it looks pin sharp.  The smaller screen will actually look much sharper as the pixels will be much smaller.

    • Anonymous

      I have an HD2 (4.3″) with Mango installed and I can possibly go down to 4″ but I’m sure I’ll hate myself everyday.

    • Anonymous

      Its the same screen as the N9′s 3.9″ screen, except the bottom is chopped off to make way for the capacitive buttons. So the width is the same, shouldnt be a problem, none of the reviews have mentioned it being so.

      Test it first in the shop to be sure.

    • Anonymous

      I don’t get what you are saying. All phones are “industrial design”.

    • http://twitter.com/Nelus08 Jay

      I mean that the HTC designs are kind of unadventurous and solid as opposed to lavish and attractive 

  • http://www.elmsoftware.com elmsoftware

    Great review…the Lumia 800 looks awesome.

    I will say that the side by side comparison of photos goes to the Titan  (especially thee first side-by-side of the cityscape).  Hopefully you can post some more side-by-sides in different light conditions.

  • http://gowindowsgo.com Sam Sabri

    Great review. Is this going to become your daily device?

  • https://profiles.google.com/christopher.gull/ CG

    How is 3984×2992 = 8MP?

    • Seth_p

      Don’t know, I think he goofed up – at that resolution it’d have 11.9MP or 11,920,128 pixels. When he uploaded to Flickr both original images are shot at the 3264×2448, so maybe he’s had a few too many drinks? :P

    • https://profiles.google.com/christopher.gull/ CG

      Seems like something went haywire at least :P
      Please fix this, @creamhackered:disqus !

    • http://www.winrumors.com Tom W

      Sorry guys, I was looking at what it said on the camera but clearly the end result is different. Maybe a few too many drinks mixed in there too. Fixed :)

  • Anonymous

    You are a lucky guy, Tom.   You get to test all these cool things before the rest of us.  Thumbs up!

  • Anonymous

    Great review! I am a little dissapointed in the camera to say the least, but I do love the design. I would buy it if it was in the US.

  • Just Testing

    Tom, so what you’re saying is, if i DON’T have data (internet) on my plan i CAN’T use NOKIA MAPS on the Lumia 800 here in California USA?

    If so Nokia HUGE FAIL!!

    • Anonymous

      Nokia huge fail… because they require you to have a DATA connection on your smartphone? 

      What a world we live in… 

    • Just Testing

      The normal one, a world we people have budgets to live by. Look Nokia Drive should work like any Major GPS unite OFFLINE(without a data connection). I was hoping to get this phone as a replacement to my iphone 3GS, but it doesn’t seem like that’s going to happen. I love Windows Phone, and can’t wait for a Nokia Killer handset,(ACE) but until then ill pass.

      Plus, if Nokia want to be successful in the States (America) everything should be standard, customs don’t want to pay more for a feature to work. (Nokia Drive) Am tired of waiting to a killer Windows Phone Headset, if Apollo doesn’t CHANGE the mobile game, and Windows Phone plays catch-up to IOS and Android ill have to stay with IOS. 

      PLEASE MICROSOFT MAKE APOLLO THE BEST MOBILE OS EVER PLEASE!!!!!

    • zaharia@gmail.com

      just asking…. How will you stick to your iOS or whatever smartphone you want without a data plan?…

    • http://www.facebook.com/MRWisbey Morgan Wisbey

      Correct me if I’m wrong but the map navigation in iOS requires a data connection doesn’t it?

    • Guest

      I have a feeling that this alias is going to set a record for short lived.

    • Anonymous

      No No No. Nokia Maps does not REQUIRE data connection!

  • Anonymous

    Well,
    Nokia Drive would have been the only reason why I might have been interested in the Nokia’s Windows line-up, yet, the fact that it requires a data connection is a real deal breaker! I am often abroad, so, having to face roaming charges for data while navigating is a real problem. Sure, there are other full featured offline navigation software solutions available for WP7 (for instance Navigon) but for them, I don’t need a Nokia device – my good old Omnia7 16GB will do just fine.

    • http://twitter.com/JayJayTG Jay Gilliham

      you can download the maps before you go abroad ;)

    • Anonymous

      Read the article! Navigation requires data access.

    • Anonymous

      Doesn’t Nokia Drive cache maps to your local storage?  Maybe you can download maps ahead of time, while connected to home wifi or something.

    • http://www.winrumors.com Tom W

      Regardless of whether you have the apps, it still requires a data connection to start the application or navigate to destinations. It appears to connect to the net to find out a destinations address.

    • Anonymous

      Doesn’t make sense. Other reviews state that if you download the maps of your country, it will navigate without data connection. And Nokia themselves said that it navigates without data connection if you download the maps. That’s the whole point of offline navigation that Nokia is famous for.

    • JFH

      Nope, it’s because of the a in a- gps, which means it uses a tiny amount of data to get the initial location. Doesnt make sense if it is anything else.

    • Chris

      I am kinda miffed about Nokia Drive needing an initial data
      connection because this was one of the questions I asked the people who were
      demonstrating the Lumia 800 at Nokia World – now I feel like they were telling
      me porkies or they didn’t know themselves.  

      One guy actually demonstrated Nokia Drive on a
      Lumia 800 what thought was working in “offline mode” and without any data
      connection using a postcode only for the destination and it worked.  I don’t know the operating system well enough
      to prove otherwise (at the time) as I’m a new comer considering a Windows
      Phone.

      Majority of the phones on display did not have the maps
      downloaded to the phone and connecting to the WiFi connection at the event was difficult
      (probably due to the number of phones and laptops there).  It was difficult to play around with the display
      phones without any interruptions from the event staff to be honest.

      There are times when
      you do not have a signal and you need directions – these reviews
      are so useful, keep up the good work!

    • Chilligi

      You can take public transport

  • guest

    I only wish the pictures looked better from the Lumia rather than the Titan

  • cx1

    “The impressive pair of apps will not be made available to any other Windows Phone handset.”

    until it’s ripped from the rom and made available on xda :)

  • Anonymous

    Tom, can you verify the settings on Nokia Drive.    On my N8, when I initially launch the application, it does connect me to the internet; however, I can disable the connection and utilize both maps and voice navigation WITHOUT the data connection.

    Thanks!

    • http://www.winrumors.com Tom W

      Yeah I tested the N8 too and it acts differently. Here’s what happens if you switch the data after app launch. You get this error when you attempt to navigate to a destination. 

    • Anonymous

      Ok.  Thanks so much for verifying :)

    • Tony

      Tom, can you verify all the missing features of Drive listed in http://www.ic-mobile.com/blogs/97-nokia-in-2011-a-royal-wedding-without-belle-and-whistles is also true for the version you have on your phone?

    • Jonathan

      I wonder if the problem is because putting it in airplane mode turns off the GPS and data has nothing to do with it?

      I don’t think  Tom had a SIM card in the phone  when he was driving around, so wouldn’t have had a data connection then?

    • Anonymous

      Hmmm.  I see what you’re saying.  Tom is going to have to field that one, though.

      I really hope that the Nokia WP devices will allow for navigation without the use of data – unfortunately, not everyone has unlimited data plans.  And I, given that I don’t need to use data for navigation on my N8, am expecting the exact same functionality with the Nokia WP devices.

  • Will Fisher

    Won’t no gyroscope impact on quite a few apps in the long run? Shame but everything else looks superb! So few people really use front facing camera’s so that’s a fair miss :) Getting one for christmas! :DD

  • http://twitter.com/ama_neden ama neden

    Titan’s camera is better than Nokia’s???
    What the hell is that now? How can even be possible? Where are the advantages of Carl Zeiss?
    Images show that Titan slaps Nokia, clearly.
    Huge disappointment really.

    • https://profiles.google.com/christopher.gull/ CG

      It really feels like there were fingerprint smudges on the lens when I check out the picture.. even the tiniest of it makes the sky and highlights screw up significantly… The Titan’s camera is positioned higher up, away from where the phone is held… could this be a reason?

    • http://www.winrumors.com Tom W

      Yeah I’ll try and take some more comparison shots in the daylight. 

    • https://profiles.google.com/christopher.gull/ CG

      Oh, by the way, I think the Lumia 800 handles white balance better in the image with the Android dude!

  • Anonymous

    Anyone know where there’s on available unlocked? :P

  • http://twitter.com/Koki_v3 Koki_v3

    The first photo taken with Lumia is definitely taken with a dirty lens or some sort of smudge on it. My Omnia 7 takes the exact same “bloom” sorta photos when there’s for example a fingerprint on it. I don’t believe the camera is this bad. The lens is definitely dirty.

    • Dalgarven

      Agree there, just cleaning the lens before taking a shot makes a huge difference. A user fault there.

    • RedHatDevelopment

      sorry but my experience with the Lumia produce the same type of results, Nokia has a major fail on the camera with this phone 

  • http://www.facebook.com/MRWisbey Morgan Wisbey

    The major problem that I have with this design is the USB connection. First I have no idea what the infatuation is with having a door over this connector. It annoying to have to open it each time to use it and is prone to snapping off. My Focus has the same deal but it’s designed that you don’t have to close or open it each time. They really just need to have a connector that is just open. Second and most important, why on earth are these connections at the TOP of the phone?? A cradle that you can stand the phone up and charge at the same time is impossible this way. Also, trying to use the phone while it’s plugged in either trying to talk on it or even text with the cable fighting you to turn the phone upside down is annoying as hell. Besides the plastic, it’s the number one complaint about my Focus. The earphone jack makes sense at the top but not the data/charge connection. Does Apple have a patent on data/charge connections being at the bottom of the phone? If they don’t, I really hope this changes on designs for future phones and soon. Either that or issue the Apollo phones with cordless recharging and then they can place the data connection anywhere they want.

    • http://twitter.com/hoekstras Sake

      The new Focus Flash/Omnia W has USB connection at the bottom

    • http://www.facebook.com/MRWisbey Morgan Wisbey

      well thats a start i guess.

    • Cam

      My nokia 5800 has the charge, usb and audio at the top and i have no issues with it.
      I think its just a Nokia thing…

  • Guest

    “One of the disappointing aspects of the camera is the lack of face tracking,…”

    I thought that was a key feature in Windows Phone 7.5 OS? ;) You tap the persons face on the screen an the camera focuses in on that spot within the field of view.  Did the author understand that?

    • http://www.winrumors.com Tom W

      No it’s not part of Windows Phone 7.5. It’s up to device manufacturers to add it in. If you tap the screen or someone’s face it just focuses on that spot in the picture. That’s not face tracking. Face tracking on the HTC actually tracks people’s faces automatically and adjusts the camera appropriately. It also tracks multiple faces giving you multiple boxes of focus.

  • BI1000

    honestly we need one of this phones in the states asap – kinda tired of hearing about what everyone else can get 

  • http://twitter.com/starksimon Stark

    That is one dusty dasboard XD. Thumbs up if you noticed. #youtubesyndrome #joke

    Lumia 800 is gorgeous. If they continue making phones as beautiful as this one, we have a winner. Nokia + Microsoft = <3

    • http://www.winrumors.com Tom W

      Haha glad someone noticed. That’s not my van but yes it’s super dusty and belongs to a painter and decorator so that’s why ;)

  • Chris Ferrera

    Why oh WHY has MS been so weak with WP7 releases in the US…

    First they get Omnia 7 exclusivity and now this. Its kind of aggravating.

  • Anonymous

    Is Lumia 800 is using the same lens as in N9. N9 camera performance isn’t that good. Even though it uses F/2.2 lens, the quality is not good. 

    http://shootspeak.com/2011/10/07/2-camera-shots-comparison-%E2%80%93-nokia-n9-vs-samsung-galaxy-s2/

  • Norville2

    Phone prices in Spain are a rip off, they want 269 euros on a 40 euro per month contract,,,that is Orange.. it is no wonder they don’t sell many windows phones..movistar and vodaphone are the same. Why are the rates so much more in Spain?……

    • Acftootsie12

      Have you ever looked into the regulatory costs in Spain vs. other places?

  • http://twitter.com/KingdomCon kingdomcon

    I would like to buy this unlocked; does this work on ATT in the US?

    • Anonymous

      ATT yes, no 3G on Tmob.

    • http://twitter.com/KingdomCon kingdomcon

      thanks!! i’lll look into it!

  • http://twitter.com/JairJy Jair Jaramillo

    Someone knows if these Nokia phones will have the Zune Music app? Nokia Music looks great, but one of the reasons I want a WP7 device is for the Zune player.

    • TheWarIsNotOver

      Yes, it will have both Zune and Nokia Music, don’t worry :)

    • Anonymous

      both 

    • Acftootsie12

      I would think that’s a given since the only thing a windows phone syncs with is the Zune app on a computer.

  • Anonymous

    the french people already choosing lumia 800  as the best selling device on http://www.phonehouse.fr/  :D

  • Anonymous

    When are we getting 4G LTE Windows Phones with FFC/NFC/SMOLED/Dual Core?

    • Anonymous

      Q2 2012.

  • Tony
  • Anonymous

    Watching you play with the screen while you’re driving makes me happy I wasn’t sitting in the passenger seat!

  • Anonymous

    Decent start but N9 will do for now, see what happens when Apollo comes round.

  • http://twitter.com/winlivematt winlivematt

    Hey all, just been testing the camera out on my 800 and took a bit of tinkering to get optimal shots. Try setting it to Scenes ‘Auto’, Metering mode ‘centre weighted’ and Focus mode ‘macro’. I’ll be putting some shots up on MSN UK shortly to compare! And Tom, are you in London? If so, we should talk! Always good to talk to fellow MS fans….. Cheers, Matt

  • Anonymous

    Wrong info in review!

    Mix Radio can be used also offline, because you can download 200 songs = 14 hours of music to your phone. Music selection in Mix Radio is 14 million songs.And offline usage is also FREE.

  • Anonymous

    “design ques” – you mean cues.

    Anyway, sealed in battery – this stops people putting in crappy and dangerous third party batteries from eBay. Perhaps this is another motivation.

  • Dalgarven

    I have Nokia maps on my 5800, you dont need a data connection for it to work, though it does if you want to find out whats nearby though, which kind of makes sense. It does have speed limits on it. I have been told many a time to ‘Slow down dude, whats the hurry?’.  It also has a walking option which is handy. Its all free. Hopefully these facilites will be on it if not when i get it but pretty soon. 

  • Dalgarven

    I think we should be celebrating that here there are 3 cracking windows phones. All beautiful, but the Nokia lumia 800 taking the crown. The photo shots and the video are all good, apart from the smudged lens one. The video shows that the lens is a great one too. I have a carl zeiss on my nokia and sharpness is not an issue. Looking at the shot of the phone on the table you can see that the white colour balance is far better on the nokia, the other one showing the typical orange ’tungsten’ look.

    I am getting mine 3-5 days after the 16th..  I can hardly wait, especially as my current phone has been battered, scratched, dropped, cracked etc.  

  • Naceron

    Only one disapointement, the lack of front facing camera! -:(

  • http://www.windowsfolk.com hotbiee

    look interesting! Nokia will comeback