Windows Phone Mango released to manufacturing (RTM)? No

By Tom Warren, on 22nd Jul 11 4:12 pm with 70 Comments

Windows Phone Mango

Microsoft has finalized Windows Phone Mango according to reports.

The software giant has reportedly marked build 7710 as the final gold build of Mango. The release to manufacturing (RTM) marks the end of development for Windows Phone Mango which is now undergoing carrier testing. Windows Phone Dev Podcast revealed the details of Microsoft’s finalization of Windows Phone Mango in an episode published on Thursday. One podcaster said revealed that Microsoft’s red Windows Phone theme is the official theme colour for Mango. “As we talked about last week, Mango did RTM and it is being sent out to carriers and OEMs to start testing so let the timer begin,” said the podcast. Microsoft is expected to make devices available as soon as August.

A Fujitsu branded Windows Phone will be made available in Japan by the end of August according to recent reports. The device will launch with carrier KDDI. A number of new Windows Phone Mango devices were demonstrated by Microsoft at its Worldwide Partner Conference earlier this month. Microsoft demonstrated a waterproof Fujitsu handset and new ZTE and Acer devices. The software maker also revealed a new Samsung Windows Phone that appears to resemble the company’s Galaxy S II Android model. Windows Phone Mango is expected to include front facing camera support. Microsoft has not yet officially detailed the hardware specifications for Mango devices but a HTC device leaked recently. The device appears to confirm front facing cam support for 7.5. The HTC Eternity is a 4.7″ WVGA Super LCD device with a 1.5GHz CPU, 8PM camera (with autofocus and dual LED flash) and front-facing 1.3MP camera. The Eternity includes 16GB of storage, DLNA support and SRS surround sound speakers. Beta 2 versions of Microsoft’s Windows Phone Mango developer tools include references to front-facing cam support. A new icon appears to be very similar to the rumored “chatter” application that Microsoft may be planning for Windows 8. Details of “chatter” leaked to the internet last month after references to “Chatter” were discovered in early leaked builds of Windows 8. It’s believed that Chatter is a video calling service that will be integrated directly into Windows 8.

Nokia will launch its first Windows Phone devices using the new Mango platform. Nokia has previously revealed that it plans to launch its first Windows Phones in six European countries. Nokia plans to launch first in France, Germany, Italy, Spain, UK and the Netherlands. Nokia’s Windows Phone devices are currently labeled with “W” (for Windows). Nokia is also rumored to be launching a dual-core N8 variant with a 12MP camera, QWERTY touchscreen candy bar phone and a cheaper touchscreen device with less expensive body.

Update: Microsoft has clarified that Windows Phone Mango has not released to manufacturing. “For those following the rumor mill, @windowsphone Mango has not yet hit RTM. We’re excited about the progress… stay tuned,” said a tweet from Microsoft’s Director of Communications at Microsoft for the Windows Phone Division, Bill Cox. One Windows Phone 7 worker also confirmed that build 7710 is “an old build” in a separate tweet on Friday.

  • http://www.searingarrow.com AlienSix

    The party is about to start :D

  • jvs

    Mango RTM, w00t!!!

  • Anonymous

    Sweet! Mango sweet!.

  • Anonymous

    Sweet! Mango sweet!.

  • http://twitter.com/JasonSCarter Jason Carter

    WHOOT!  Heck yeah…..now get that new hardware out there so I can upgrade my phone.  Goodbye Android!

    • MSm_wp

      welcome to the new world :)

    • Anonymous

      though i use blackberry, welcome :)

    • Greyhunter

      Dumping Android ASAP

  • Grannyville7989

    So will I have to wait a century and a half to get the update for me Omnia 7?

    • Anonymous

      Granny, hang in there for the update!

    • Grannyville7989

      Haha! I’m hanging in :-)

    • SteveBallmer

      Go with HTC / Nokia in future… I got my Nodo in just a week after its released.

    • Grannyville7989

      I’m hoping to get a Nokia device when my contract expires :)

    • Anonymous

      Depends on your carrier… they get the chance to test the upgrade.

    • EricHautala

      We’re confident we can get it to you before that. byt maybe only barely. ;-)

    • http://profiles.google.com/arvydasg.93 Arvydas Grušeckas

      Well, I got all updates as soon as they arrived (Omnia 7), so it depends on phones and carriers.

    • http://profiles.google.com/carlosrfonseca Carlos Ribeiro da Fonseca

      Me too, but it took a little effort (probably my fault because I “walshied” it).

    • GP007

      Ask Samsung if it’s worked out it’s firmware problems yet.

    • http://twitter.com/PeterKremzar Peter Kremzar

      Just change/blame your carrier. I have Omnia 7 too and I get all of the updates in the first few days after they are announced. And they always work without any problem.

  • Anonymous

    Congrats to the WP7 team! Back in April (when NoDo was rolling out), I don’t think any of us thought this monster update would be ready this soon.

  • Janis91

    The question is: when will we get the update for our existing phones? I hope it’s at the same time the new hardware comes out!

    • Anonymous

      Even earlier would be greatly appreciated too :)

  • SteveBallmer

    FUCK the iSheeps! Microsoft wins!

    • Guest

      A little premature, wouldn’t you say?

    • TryllZ

      I think so too, might result in a bit of bugs…but I dearly hope not ….

    • Guest

      I expect it’ll be mostly solid. The bigger challenge is overcoming the less than stellar debut and the overwhelming momentum that Andoid and iOS now enjoy.

  • MSm_wp

    for people who forget ( i don’t forget) just saw what paul thurott said in the past =D
    http://www.wpcentral.com/thurrott-wp7-mango-update-year-near-impossibility

    • Anonymous

      Yup, I remember that one. The other news he “broke” was Verizon phone in January according to his “source”.  I would have overlooked them if he didn’t whine and bitch about the update process so much this spring. I stopped reading him since then.

    • Mark

      Because the update process was such a success? Thurrott doesn’t always get it right, but he’s about 80%. And he was 100% right when he warned MS that letting carriers control updates would result in ridiculous delays.

    • Matt

      Thurott has turned into a whiner every other post or podcast is him whining about how everyone is doing everything better then MS instead of any positive news its always debbie downer with him. Stopped listening to his podcast cause I couldn’t take it anymore.

    • Mark

      Well look, hasn’t every MS supporter had enough of MS dropping the ball and getting its ass kicked by Apple and Google? I sure have. When was the last time MS beat Apple at something where both were competing? I’d have to go back to the 90′s.

      It’s got to be especially frustrating for Thurrott when he sees a concern, tells the company and/or writes about it, and still MS ignores it only to see it bite them in the ass. I’m not saying he never indulges himself. Just that he’s often right and I don’t see the value in point out the 20% of the time where he’s wrong.

    • Anonymous

      Yeah I think when it comes to the entertainment side Microsoft has suffered from a lack of focus in the past, I have a Zune HD and gave up on my iPod a couple of years ago, the Zune player was doomed against the iPod, Microsoft had to rely on 3rd party retailers to sell Zune and well we know how well they do that.

    • SteveBallmer

      Zune was all great actually, its just their ability to advertise and the crappy reseller.

    • Anonymous

      “Because the update process was such a success?”

      No, because he was overblowing things left and right. His prediction of Mango being impossible this year was just another sample. If you didn’t get the impression that he was a big time whiner (didn’t you sense sarcasm in his almost every post?), I don’t know what to tell you. He even recommended against buying a WP7 phone. I really don’t think the NoDo delay was enough to justify that kind of reaction. This Mango RTM news proves that IMO.

    • Mark

      Yeah, he blew the Mango delivery.  No debate there. But he’s probably as happy as anyone to have been wrong about it. He likes WP7. Wrote a whole book promoting it.

  • OMG55

    Okay guys, let be sure to let all the update cry babies know that MS has done it job and completed the software build & turned it over to manufactures for testing. If the update doesn’t get release on time, it’s purely manufacturers and Cell ISP’s. Stress this very hard, because it taints MS reputation when people simply say MS failed to do this or that………Yeah!!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1670567011 Mike Pietrorazio

    Man, I hope they improved the Bing Turn Navigation for the final release. The beta Turn-By-Tap is an embarrassment.

  • Hiojkklj

    Tom, have we seen the entire mango update? or you think microsoft has surprises up its sleeve?

    • http://www.winrumors.com Tom W

      It has some surprises that’s for sure.

    • VJV

      Kinect Integration, Front Facing camera are coming for sure..hope to hear something around windows phone studio.. anything else you can think of? some similar to kin spot?

  • EverClassify

    That is exactly what we need “another phone”.   Now the trouble is your contract is two years and your new phone is now old only 5 months into your contract.

    http://www.everclassify.com

    • CandidCalum

      Everyone who currently has a Windows Phone will receive this update, so it doesn’t matter when anyone purchased their phone.

    • CandidCalum

      Everyone who currently has a Windows Phone will receive this update, so it doesn’t matter when anyone purchased their phone.

  • SomeoneinWA

    Actually Paul is 100 percent right always because his pattern is to both praise and critisize nearly every Microsoft and Apple product so that he can later “truthfully” claim to have been right about a product’s success or failure and provide the appropriate link.  He is entertaining though.

    • MSm_wp

      well i’ll glad to see his futur comments on mango ^^ 

    • Guest

      Whatever. Look forward to your blog where you’ll be 100% accurate and constructive at all times. Just let us know the URL…

    • Guest

      Sorry. That was directed @Someone.

    • SomeoneinWA

      If you actually read my post you too would know how to write a blog and be able to claim to be accurate 100 percent of the time. As entertaining as Thurott is to read, his “accuracy” is manufactured by writing articles both praising and panning various products and then later citing whichever article proved most ”accurate.” I read Paul every day and I enjoy his podcasts. You just need to know his SOP. It’s a good bit. If I ever decide to write a blog as you suggest, I may copy the technique.

    • Anonymous

      I like Paul Thurott, I don’t always agree with him and sometimes I think he’s dead wrong, but for the most part he can be fairly objective, he’ll even occasionally praise Apple in certain respects.

      I thinks some journalists like Thurott will make their opinions known without taking certain Buisness aspects to mind, logistics, internal time frames that sometimes must coincide with the completion of some other piece of technology or the need to wait for a Buisness partner to complete their end of something that’s needed.

      I do sometimes wonder if he suffers from Manic depression .

  • Anonymous

    Hell yes!  Mango has RTM’d.  This was quicker than I’d expected.

    That means I’ll get the update from AT&T on my Focus somewhere around February 2012.  Let the countdown begin!

    • Guest

      Release To Microsoft! It’s recursive. :)

  • Pedrodiogo4470

    goodbey IOS. Welcome home windows phone 7!!

    • Anonymous

      i dont use WP7 but i follow MS so welcome

  • http://twitter.com/laserfloyd Lewis McCrary

    RTM where “M” is the key to making sure we all get it in a timely fashion (and the carriers!).  Good job MS, can’t wait to get it. :)

  • http://twitter.com/laserfloyd Lewis McCrary

    RTM where “M” is the key to making sure we all get it in a timely fashion (and the carriers!).  Good job MS, can’t wait to get it. :)

  • http://twitter.com/purevibz jack frost

    I dont care about updating my focus I will buy the new samsung or the nokia :-)

  • Atomicshepard

    So having an unlocked device will probably mean I can get the update at least a bit faster. I’ll only have Samsung to blame.

  • Atomicshepard

    So having an unlocked device will probably mean I can get the update at least a bit faster. I’ll only have Samsung to blame.

  • Stevejobs

    Steve Jobs here, great news for WP7.

    Now i go back working on my next gen icon interface called iOS… :(

  • rojo

    I’m dumping Android and paying the rest of my current contract off!!!

  • immortal

    Does this mean that Skype is already ready and in the Mango RTM OS now or will Mango be released and then Skype be add on via an update? Very excitred if Skype is in the OS when its released!

    • CandidCalum

      I doubt Skype integration will be in Mango. The deal was announced too late for it to be in Mango, I imagine.

    • immortal

      but they said it will be coming in the fall. Thats september time isnt it which is approx when mango will be here?

    • SteveBallmer

      It can always come as a form of “Application” like facebook eh? Until Windows Phone 8.

  • Anonymous

    So it’ll finally have 50% of features that Android and iOS have.

  • J A
  • http://minecraftadventures123.weebly.com Lester

    Android Is Still The Best!